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Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by yucky »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #350
yucky wrote: post #348

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I think the confusion might lie in the use of your term "equivalent intoxication" then. Especially when you then mentioned their different intoxication profiles. How exactly would you define equivalent intoxication levels in something with different intoxication profiles?

Not my term, but some kind of test might make sense, or the average of several things. I mean, how do you define intoxication levels at all? You can't just, like, measure reaction time and say you're done.

Yeah it's not easy with alcohol either. Many people have almost no impact on their cognitive abilities or reaction times with a BAC of .08, while others could be legal to drive with a .06 but shouldn't be.

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xkcd-sucks wrote: post #64
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I think it's more addictive than people think. I've known a few people who I think have a problem, but they become violently confrontational if you say it might be addictive for some . I may get comments and downvotes along these lines. I guess some people may also have some exposure from before they realize they're pregnant. That probably also happens with things like alcohol. I think I've heard some say that's not…

> but they become violently confrontational if you say it might be addictive for some Going out on a limb here but it might be in the same spirit as a similar response to "Strong encryption is for child abuse and terrorism" / "Bittorrent is for pirating movies" in that it's true in some cases but is used as a popular discourse wedge to promote governmental overreach

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Post by heavyset_go »

avereveard wrote: post #302
heavyset_go wrote: post #296

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That's a strange assumption and certainly isn't true for me. I limit carbohydrates as much as possible. The majority of my calories come from fat and protein.

so wht fat you add to your diet? animal fats are, like, 30% palmitic acid.

Olive and avocado oil, flax seed oil, oil from fish and meat. I think there's a difference between eating palmitic acid that's part of a larger fatty acid profile in meat, and being conscious of just how much saturated fats you're eating, versus refined palm oil that's mostly been refined down to palmitic acid itself. If you're eating peanut butter, you might be literally eating refined palm oil by the spoonful, versus a relatively small amount of palmitic acid in meat.

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Post by taberiand »

Auracle wrote: post #267
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But surely no one has been saying that cannabis isn't a risk for pregnant women, let alone that it could be beneficial to smoke it, right?

Nearly 70% of dispensaries in Colorado recommended cannabis for morning sickness: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5970054/

I stand corrected and also oh my God.

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Post by asveikau »

Maursault wrote: post #320
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Should men not tell women not to drink alcohol while pregnant? Men can't understand what it is like to be pregnant. What right does a man have to control a women's body?

Under what circumstances will you tolerate being told what to do? Right! Never.

What about a doctor giving medical advice? You want to listen to that type of person, do you not? That's not "telling you what to do", it's offering a medical opinion which is typically sought out.

So, most doctors would advise against alcoholic beverages during pregnancy, I hope.

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Post by sbaiddn »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #284
sbaiddn wrote: post #223

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Inhaling any burnt organic matter is known to be bad for peoples health. Theres a mechanistic explanation for it too: smoking causes incomplete combustion of organic matter creating a soup of volatile organics and slew of carbon particulates, many with activated surfaces. CO, formaldehyde, CN, etc. even CO2 which is toxic at high concentrations (its not merely an asphyxiant like it is for a fire). Smoke is bad. Full…

> So the answer should have been: "we don't know the effects specifically of pot on pregnancy, but we know smoking is bad while pregnant. So, while we don't know about pot-cookies, joints are bad." No it should not have been. You removed all warning outside of smoking, and that's reckless.

My point was to highlight that even the most pro-pot advocate cannot deny the harm of smoke.

Of course marijuana is dumb during pregnancy - we don't even let women eat brie for the remote chance it might cause food poisoning

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Post by rendang »

heavyset_go wrote: post #285
rendang wrote: post #199

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I don't know where you're getting that idea about peanut butter and palm oil, it isn't true of the major US peanut butter brands https://www.peanutbutter.com/peanut-butter/creamy https://www.jif.com/peanut-butter/creamy/creamy-peanut-butte...

Plenty of Skippy's products have palm oil in them instead of peanut oil, and when I've looked, the "creamy" varieties of peanut butter tend to use palm oil for texture and stability. Store brands do the same thing in my experience.

Adding a little for texture is very different than removing the peanut oil and replacing it with palm oil. If that were the case, the saturated fat/total fat ratio would be much higher and the palm oil wouldn't be the 3rd ingredient listed after sugar.

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Post by seizethegdgap »

serverholic wrote: post #349
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> woke cult doesn’t allow any disagreement with any piece of the transgender narrative. sigh please don't use terms of abuse such as "woke cult" on HN. And yes, people are being incredibly defensive because there are a number of misinformation campaigns circulating trying to get trans healthcare banned for everyone. The war on drugs, for testosterone and estrogen.

I’m not going to stop using accurate language just because it makes you feel bad. They are a cult. It’s a group of people who fervently worship an ideology filled with hatred, falsehoods, manipulation and deception. They even have original sin, and excommunication. All under the guise of protecting oppressed people. However if they actually cared about the causes they claim, then they would try to make their ideas as…

Which ideas are hard for normal people to digest?

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Post by nwienert »

vineyardmike wrote: post #290
nwienert wrote: post #230

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Damn, thought I laid it out quite nicely in short form. It's a good thing in general to have a society that cares about whether a pregnant women is putting their baby at risk - and you simply can't have that without false positives. For every false positive making it a touch more awkward to purchase beer (the smallest price I can think of to pay) you get a ton of great things like general empathy. The society that ca…

> you get a ton of great things like general empathy. As an outsider, nothing about this thread gave any indication of real empathy. Ps. That’s not what OKB is…

Showing people who degenerate culture why that is is empathy.

On a related note my generation confuses kindness with empathy way, way too often, it's a terrible millennial habit.

Anyone familiar with boomer memes knows being flippant towards having to care a bit more is a huge part of it. It's easy to understand.

They grew up with a booming economy, peace, less value towards preservation and externalities, greed is good, and an America-centric worldview… Millennials had multiple wars, two large recessions, two rounds of QE, and a small fraction of equivalent prosperity at the same age.

They got all the benefits of the boom and none of the downsides while the younger generations are paying. When you see a kid who was raised totally spoiled complaining “I don’t want to throw away my trash, the bins all the way over there” when you're working as a garbage-man you roll your eyes and say....

It's literally a perfect example of it.

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