Your quoting suggests that you think what people on onlyfans and patreon do aren't "real jobs", but in fact to succeed in those spaces needs very hard work.
> but in fact to succeed in those spaces needs very hard work. But that doesn't make it a job. You could do hard work in moving a mountain but that's not a job. Needless to say, earning money off of your looks (something you didn't work hard to gain in the first place) doesn't qualify as hard-working job.
> But that doesn't make it a job. You could do hard work in moving a mountain but that's not a job.
If people are willingly paying you to do something, that's a good job as any other job.
A blog post was done other than Instagram: https://blog.patreon.com/a-note-from-jack "but as the world began recovering from the pandemic and enduring a broader economic slowdown, that plan is no longer the right path forward for Patreon" So basically, they overhired to meet demands during Pandemic and now as less people are using the platform (??), there is no need for the 17% of people. Interesting.
> In the US, teammates leaving Patreon will be given three months severance plus an additional two weeks for each half year of tenure beyond the first year. Pretty decent IMO. > You’ll also receive COBRA health care coverage through the end of the year. Odd that that doesn't match the pay period, but oh well.
I suspect its because of the way that COBRA works: COBRA would start for them on October 1st (their active employee insurance would cover them until Sep 30), so they are getting three months. I have never seen a health insurance that supported two week increments, so you couldn't do the 'two weeks for tenure' thing. You could, in theory offer an extra month per year beyond the first, but that's a lot of extra work and expense to go into, offering it, for something that I suspect will have very little pick-up. My guess is most everyone who is laid off today will have a job which will offer insurance by Jan 1st.
Patreon's handling of expired cards is terrible.. people I know who used Patreon just lose subscribers because the flow for fixing an expired card basically doesn't exist (or didn't, maybe it's been fixed since). Those people left Patreon and won't be returning. Their new engineering staff could fix that, for one.
Interesting. I haven't had to enter new data for any subscription service when a cc expires for years now. Somehow the new info gets relayed to the service without my input.
Nobody looks like they are going to lose their livelihood over this: https://blog.patreon.com/a-note-from-jack 3 months' of pay + longer depending on tenure at the company. Healthcare until the end of the year. Mental care up to 6 months. They contracted a placement company to place the laid off staff to other companies in the sector. A lot of those people will already get hooked up by a company within a week or so,…
Why was an Instagram post shared instead of the blog post on patreon?
That's the choice of the person who posted the Instagram post at HN instead of the actual blog post that was posted before the Instagram post, obviously.
> "... I’m more confident than ever that the world needs a better economic system for creative people, and Patreon will keep building that system for creators over the decades ahead. However, the pandemic introduced volatility to the broader trend, starting with a rapid acceleration during COVID lockdowns. In response, we built an operating plan to support this outsized growth, but as the world began recovering from…
I agree with you in principle, but we now have the benefit of foresight.
Imagine Patreon's position during early covid: they had a firehose of money pointed at them. I'm sure they knew it will end, but not "when". They had to react to it, if for no other reason than to prevent a competitor from getting ahead.
What does “taking full responsibility” even mean? Like people lose their livelihood and you can get away with “I take full responsibility”. Taking full responsibility mean taking a pay cut or stepping down or basically taking consequences for yourself first before others have to.
Nobody looks like they are going to lose their livelihood over this: https://blog.patreon.com/a-note-from-jack 3 months' of pay + longer depending on tenure at the company. Healthcare until the end of the year. Mental care up to 6 months. They contracted a placement company to place the laid off staff to other companies in the sector. A lot of those people will already get hooked up by a company within a week or so,…
> Nobody looks like they are going to lose their livelihood over this
We don’t know everyone’s unique situation, even if they did go beyond what most companies do.
I've heard the same, Meta for sure, and a few folks at Goog have told me as well they are coming. For google this will be the first time they have ever done layoffs in the company history(2009 had 200 folks leave so not really layoffs so to speak) so that tells you the scale of this tech downturn.
That's genuinely anxiety-inducing to hear. I have several friends who have signed offers with Google, with start dates set within the next few weeks/months. Really hoping they don't start pulling offers. I can't put my finger on why, but somehow that seems like it'd be even more cruel than layoffs.
Pulling offers is always considered a _very_ bad look. I would be extremely surprised if Google did such a thing given the optics, but it wouldn't be the first time Google has surprised me with it's stupidity.
This is somewhat meta, but linking to an instagram post is terrible, I get immediately redirected to a login page and can't even see the content on Instagram. I do not have an instagram account, nor do I want to create one just to see this. Was there no better place to link to?