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Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Digging a big hole then filling it back in is "very hard work" too but that doesn't make it a real job.

What, pray tell, qualifies a job as a "real" job?

Oh, you know, Javascript Ninja, Devops Rockstar, a real job.

/s

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This bit from the employee announcement about how they're handling equity vesting [1] is worth highlighting as a pretty classy move, all things considered: > We’re waiving the one-year equity vesting cliff for all departing employees so that everyone has an opportunity to be a shareholder, regardless of your tenure. [...] All departing teammates will qualify for an extended option exercise period of 5 years, and we h…

They say there's 3 months of pay, healthcare, mental care until the end of the year too. And they contracted a placement company to hook people up with new jobs.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but in fact to succeed in those spaces needs very hard work. But that doesn't make it a job. You could do hard work in moving a mountain but that's not a job. Needless to say, earning money off of your looks (something you didn't work hard to gain in the first place) doesn't qualify as hard-working job.

It takes a LOT of work to "earn a living off your looks" Ignoring the time spent setting up shoots, editing, engagement, etc, and focusing just on "looks", you have to spend a lot of time on working out, make up, shaving, putting together outfits, etc. If you think that looking good is something that doesn't take any hard work, it's because you've never tried to put in that work yourself.

Anything you do to make yourself look good has only incremental effect; you must already have a "good" foundation (genetics, race, etc.)

An African American woman, for example, has almost zero chance of making it to the top 10 p$rnstars list, no matter how much she put effort and time to prepare herself.

Some things are just the realities of the world. Thinking otherwise makes you delusional.

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What does “taking full responsibility” even mean? Like people lose their livelihood and you can get away with “I take full responsibility”. Taking full responsibility mean taking a pay cut or stepping down or basically taking consequences for yourself first before others have to.

It means that the employees are being let go because he did a bad job, not that they were low performing or that other employee performances caused patreon to perform better. It doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme of things but it’s just that he is claiming culpability for all of the ills patreon is experiencing.

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What does “taking full responsibility” even mean? Like people lose their livelihood and you can get away with “I take full responsibility”. Taking full responsibility mean taking a pay cut or stepping down or basically taking consequences for yourself first before others have to.

Nobody looks like they are going to lose their livelihood over this: https://blog.patreon.com/a-note-from-jack 3 months' of pay + longer depending on tenure at the company. Healthcare until the end of the year. Mental care up to 6 months. They contracted a placement company to place the laid off staff to other companies in the sector. A lot of those people will already get hooked up by a company within a week or so,…

Why was an Instagram post shared instead of the blog post on patreon?

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What does “taking full responsibility” even mean? Like people lose their livelihood and you can get away with “I take full responsibility”. Taking full responsibility mean taking a pay cut or stepping down or basically taking consequences for yourself first before others have to.

He's taking responsibility for over-hiring relative to the needs of his business, and taking corrective action for the long term health and viability of the business. This is the right thing to do. Yes, it sucks for the people who lose their jobs, but unfortunately some risk is always involved in an employment arrangement. It would be far more unfortunate if Patreon overspent to the point that their business had to close, as that would affect their entire userbase and entire employee base.

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This is somewhat meta, but linking to an instagram post is terrible, I get immediately redirected to a login page and can't even see the content on Instagram. I do not have an instagram account, nor do I want to create one just to see this. Was there no better place to link to?

https://blog.patreon.com/a-note-from-jack
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