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Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Post by mburee »

gilded-lilly wrote: post #289

One of my pet peeves is the oft repeated slogan “it’s not addictive”. And by definition, that’s true. But neither is Methamphetamine. But people still throw it around like it’s some kind of scientific blessing that you can’t form a dependency. Also, I think the true cost of marijuana is the opportunity cost - it’s not just what it does to you, it’s what it takes from you - your motivation, potential etc. And it’s rea…

On the other hand coffee is addictive, but I have yet so see someone go down the drain mentally for drinking coffee all the time.

Sure, not a lot of pot users do, but there's the minority that seems to spend 80% of their free time smoking.

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Post by jl6 »

darth_avocado wrote: post #12

I’m glad this research is being done. I don’t use cannabis, but I also don’t frown upon it. However some of the conversations on the use of cannabis recently have changed from “it’s a drug, but it isn’t that bad” to “it is completely harmless”. Which in my opinion is very dangerous and could harm entire populations before we have enough research. In my opinion, it should be considered similar category as alcohol, cig…

It’s a symptom of polarized mindsets. For years the mainstream sentiment was “cannabis is evil and deadly”. Instead of correcting to a less extreme position, we overcorrected to an equally extreme position in the opposite direction.

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Post by danielbln »

lukas099 wrote: post #277
subpixel wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like you and I have similar reactions to marijuana. From “that smells great” to “I’m talking, but I can’t remember what I was going to say” in just three tokes. What I’ve come to understand though is that for many other people, marijuana makes them feel great - sharp, alert, at ease and in control. I can empathize with the idea that “this can’t be bad!” even while acknowledging you’d have to be very deluded to…

I don't understand how weed could make anyone feel sharp and alert, but good for them. Most use it to feel relaxed I would say.

Most people use waaaaay more than they need, and then are surprised(?) that their cognition temporarily turns into mush.

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Post by LatteLazy »

"Associated with" is basically meaningless in human or health studies.

I'm not saying there isn't a causal link here, there probably is. I'm just saying this isn't science, it's excel. So we should do some actual science and know rather than just creating an ever bigger list of "associated" risks that no one can remember or compare or make much use of.

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Post by heavyset_go »

avereveard wrote: post #281
drtz wrote: post #228

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High-palmitic acid diets and dry, high-sugar diets are hardly the only two options.

Yeah but I bet people that are sold on palm oil is evil are on low fat diet. And that the calories from fat they don't consume come from carbohydrates, not proteins.

That's a strange assumption and certainly isn't true for me. I limit carbohydrates as much as possible. The majority of my calories come from fat and protein.

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Post by valtism »

gilded-lilly wrote: post #289

One of my pet peeves is the oft repeated slogan “it’s not addictive”. And by definition, that’s true. But neither is Methamphetamine. But people still throw it around like it’s some kind of scientific blessing that you can’t form a dependency. Also, I think the true cost of marijuana is the opportunity cost - it’s not just what it does to you, it’s what it takes from you - your motivation, potential etc. And it’s rea…

I don't understand what you mean by saying that Cannabis and Meth are not addictive by definition.

I think that they are both dependency-inducing and addictive as drugs.

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Post by RHSman2 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #256
opportune wrote: post #147

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Agreed, it is the general public propagating this. Just go onto Reddit and you’ll see it everywhere. For cannabis I find the attitude pretty scary, having been a daily user myself several times (including now) and dealing with the side effects. It does have negatives. I would hate for everyone to have to learn that the hard way or for them to misidentify the causes, though even those side effects are pretty mild - so…

I don't know if it's happening more now than in the past, but it's really just magical thinking -- people believing something is true because they want it to be true.

Moderation is so key otherwise you start believing your own thinking It’s a tool and it’s easy to get into a way of life(the high life). That is what is more addictive I find.

I have definitely come to a point where I can see myself in others usage and it’s clearer to me that while all it’s ‘benefits’ are something great the key is to finding how to bring that into reality without having to invest it.

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Post by GordonS »

cududa wrote: post #233
moomoo11 wrote: post #101

Is this really surprising? Any time I had used cannabis I felt like my IQ dropped 20-30 points and I would lose hours of my day where it was difficult for me to learn. It made doing household chores not terrible, but brought out a lot of panic inducing moments and erratic behavior. I was thinking about a 100k other things while doing one thing. Later on I realized I wasn't even doing that one thing so well. Anything…

31 year old adult that smoked weed daily from like 16 on until about 28. Always thought I was "treating my anxiety" with weed. Nope, it absolutely was just making it worse. I quit for a few months and the anxiety got worse. Dad then died of a congenital heart condition. Symptoms of the heart condition mimic anxiety. Took 9 years of doctors telling me "it was a fluke" my dad died of it/ that there's no way I had that…

As a counterpoint, there are plenty of people here in the UK legally treating anxiety with cannabis, who do so because it greatly helps them.

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Post by RHSman2 »

darth_avocado wrote: post #12

I’m glad this research is being done. I don’t use cannabis, but I also don’t frown upon it. However some of the conversations on the use of cannabis recently have changed from “it’s a drug, but it isn’t that bad” to “it is completely harmless”. Which in my opinion is very dangerous and could harm entire populations before we have enough research. In my opinion, it should be considered similar category as alcohol, cig…

There should be a warning on humans: ‘careful, you’ll probably be an idiot’

I’ve had a relationship with this most intriguing of plants and that is what I have concluded at 45 years on this planet.

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