Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

Post by matthewh806 » Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 1:00 AM UTC

nathanvanfleet wrote: post #272

matthewh806 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this exact same comment did pretty well on Reddit too: https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/xckw5v/comme... 1. Not all of the arrests have been made at a "funeral" 2. It wasn't a funeral 3. If you're going to have a very public precession, parading a body through the streets with all the obedients lapping it up, surely you have to have a level of tolerance for dissenting voices? I imagine the disrupt…

You're noticing that this is copy-pasta from somewhere else. It seems credible that there might be some bad actors like with the Coronavirus or the election. But maybe I struggle to imagine how people could be so incredibly actively loyal to a royal family.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 1:03 AM UTC

brigandish wrote: post #264

wutbrodo wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article describes an activist who specifically took pains to avoid any disparagement of the outgoing Queen, limiting his protest to the incoming coronation. If that falls under the rule you're describing, doesn't that render it impossible to protest a ceremony, as long as it happens after a funeral? It seems you're defining away the protest of hereditary succession as unacceptably rude?

> limiting his protest to the incoming coronation. The coronation is months away, he was protesting the ascension at the Queen's funeral procession . That does not avoid disparagement of the Queen. I certainly don't think he should be arrested but he's clearly boneheaded. He'll have plenty of time to protest both the ascension and the coronation, of someone who is a much softer target that the Queen, especially consi…

Post by bombcar » Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 1:07 AM UTC

strken wrote: post #218

KptMarchewa wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once again, Americans are proud of the fact they can protest at funerals.

Protesting a public funeral procession for a public figure down closed-off public roads makes that more defensible, from my Australian perspective. Otherwise you have a bizarre situation where you can hold a 100-mile-long walking-speed parade for whatever cause you support, provided you can find a suitable dead person and convince the police to block off the roads, and all your opponents have to shut their mouths and…

Post by bjourne » Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 1:08 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #231

bjourne wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The queen was a public figure whose lavish livelihood were paid for by British tax-payers. So it seems to me that British people should have the right to celebrate her death in any way they please. Curtailing people's freedom of speech by misusing public order laws (the queen's funeral is not comparable to any normal funeral) is curtailing freedom of speech.

So you see it as a business transaction, where one party is somehow allowed to be rude to the other party because they paid them money? Am I allowed to be rude to a cashier because I pay them? Do you not see what (non-monetary) price public figures pay for their role?

Post by brutusborn » Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 1:12 AM UTC

austinjp wrote: post #327

The UK media (not just the BBC) continue to profess "amazement" at the speed and efficiency of the transitioning from a dead monarch to a living one. There's been much speaking in awed tones at the pace of the various proclamations, committee meetings, document signings, etc, as if this pace tells us why we should be impressed. Personally I've found it borderline sickening. If there was a curtain that could have slip…