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Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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The same sentiment can be applied to current psychedelics research.

Can you post a source for any claim that theyre harmless? I don’t think any reputable researcher has ever said that, but they have started talking about potential for positive effects, which is a far cry from “if you take this it will ruin your life”.

You're missing the point of the conversation if you think this is about "reputable researchers".

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It’s still a DUI if you drive on it. The week after it was legalized in my state, a person managed to put their car through the second story of a home. The toxicology report showed the only thing in their system was cannabis.

Cannibis can be in your system for weeks or months, so take the authority reports that the accident was caused by cannabis intoxication with a grain of salt, and assume that absent other evidence it might be that the user in this case wasn’t high at the time. I’m not saying this to say no accidents has been caused by cannibis, but that there’s currently no way to tell current level of cannabis intoxication. Authoriti…

> absent other evidence

Perhaps a car embedded in the second floor of a house?

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Try explaining to an average person how they can identify which food products at the supermarket have noble-gas-fat-products in them and which don't.

That's easy. The packages are labeled with nutrient information, don't eat any that contain any amount of trans fats. Also as a side note, hydrogen isn't a noble gas

I think this would mean eating nothing but home cooked meals or a 3x in grocery bill. I'm not even sure of the latter strategy

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Try explaining to an average person how they can identify which food products at the supermarket have noble-gas-fat-products in them and which don't.

"Check the nutrition facts label. If it has any trans fat, put it back."

Trans fats are now banned in the US so there's not much of a need to look.

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The primary positive effect of cannabis in the general population is probably that it tends to interfere with alcohol consumption, due to excessive sedation. This probably explains the lack of negative population-level effects of cannabis legalization. The most concerning effect of cannabis is its tendency to increase heart rate. Quite a bit of research is available on the effects of cannabis use — the problem is tha…

> The most concerning effect of cannabis is its tendency to increase heart rate. Can you please tell me why you think heart rate is more concerning than the psychological effects? Effects which the paper itself mentions and you seem to downplay for some unobvious reason to me. For me, the difficulty is discerning causation from correlation. Anecdotally I know plenty of cannabis users, and many of them have obvious me…

> Anecdotally I know plenty of cannabis users, and many of them have obvious mental issues

If there’s a causal link, I wonder in which direction is more common? I know kids from my neighborhood who now smoke a lot of weed. I think most of them had issues long before trying weed and weed was more of an escape for them, much like booze is for many.

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The amount of research over last decade has been huge, even outside of this. It used to be the only way companies could research cannabis was by getting really crappy samples from a government grow house, but with legalization the supply of research samples and the quality of researchers willing to work on it has grown considerably. This is a direct safety issue. I used to moderator one of the bigger cannabis subredd…

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Just as a baseline, we know smoking cannabis is unsafe because it’s smoke going into your lungs. That’s never healthy. Any particulate inhalation is bad for your lungs.

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I’m glad this research is being done. I don’t use cannabis, but I also don’t frown upon it. However some of the conversations on the use of cannabis recently have changed from “it’s a drug, but it isn’t that bad” to “it is completely harmless”. Which in my opinion is very dangerous and could harm entire populations before we have enough research. In my opinion, it should be considered similar category as alcohol, cig…

In a lot of ways in the US i see the issue here coming down to prohibition. If Marijuana was legal and regulated then the FDA could prosecute fraudsters that claim the drug is “completely hazard free miracle herb that doctors HATE”.

Of course irresponsible fools are taking advantage in a gap in the law to make short term profits.

Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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I’m glad this research is being done. I don’t use cannabis, but I also don’t frown upon it. However some of the conversations on the use of cannabis recently have changed from “it’s a drug, but it isn’t that bad” to “it is completely harmless”. Which in my opinion is very dangerous and could harm entire populations before we have enough research. In my opinion, it should be considered similar category as alcohol, cig…

I agreed with all of that except for fat. You need fat. You don’t need any of the others.

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Re: Prenatal cannabis exposure associated with mental disorders in children

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Cannibis can be in your system for weeks or months, so take the authority reports that the accident was caused by cannabis intoxication with a grain of salt, and assume that absent other evidence it might be that the user in this case wasn’t high at the time. I’m not saying this to say no accidents has been caused by cannibis, but that there’s currently no way to tell current level of cannabis intoxication. Authoriti…

> absent other evidence Perhaps a car embedded in the second floor of a house?

A traffic collision is not evidence of inebriation, though, since people get in collisions when not inebriated. I'm talking about someone following them that saw them weaving, not holding a phone, perhaps nodding asleep, or maybe even someone saw them smoking a joint, then a just-lit joint was found at the scene.
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