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Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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How effective is the German FE-Schrift license plate typeface for this purpose?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FE-Schrift

It was designed to make different characters visually distinct from one another, but also especially difficult to alter into something visually similar. The latter part is a slightly different goal.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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post #111

How effective is the German FE-Schrift license plate typeface for this purpose? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FE-Schrift It was designed to make different characters visually distinct from one another, but also especially difficult to alter into something visually similar. The latter part is a slightly different goal.

Maybe it would work, but I can't see myself ever using a font without lowercase letters.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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post #102

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I really hate those restaurants that only have QR codes on the table for menus. A restaurant is for eating and talking, not for messing around with my phone. I avoid those now. During Covid there was a slight point (though it was pretty soon proven that surface transmission was so minor a factor not to warrant such actions). But now we should just go back to normal menus.

Heh. I went to a sushi restaurant recently and sat down to an iPad menu. After ordering a few rolls and confirming the order, it was delivered by a robot[0]. After finishing the plates, I returned them to the robot which carried them away. I scanned a QR code on the table which allowed me to pay for everything from my phone. Curiously, I was presented with options to tip 18%, 20%, 30%, or other. I thought about it an…

I'm curious who would get the tip in this scenario. The sushi chef? Ok, I guess. The restaurant owner? I'm going with 0%. The robot? Maybe if it can pass a Turing test.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hate those restaurants that only have QR codes on the table for menus. A restaurant is for eating and talking, not for messing around with my phone. I avoid those now. During Covid there was a slight point (though it was pretty soon proven that surface transmission was so minor a factor not to warrant such actions). But now we should just go back to normal menus.

Heh. I went to a sushi restaurant recently and sat down to an iPad menu. After ordering a few rolls and confirming the order, it was delivered by a robot[0]. After finishing the plates, I returned them to the robot which carried them away. I scanned a QR code on the table which allowed me to pay for everything from my phone. Curiously, I was presented with options to tip 18%, 20%, 30%, or other. I thought about it an…

I agree with tipping the robots (for whom service is always the same) N% of their wage; which is still 0.

Tips should be _not-legal_ and proper wages for the workers should be _required_.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Reminder that fonts are subjective. This one is good for specific people, not everyone. I can't use it because I find it overly rounded with tics. An example of a font that is also meant to be legible, but is on the squarish side, is Tiresias Screenfont. Increased legibility does NOT mean "flow". Just because each character is more "distinct" does not mean that the whole word is able to be processed with ease. Import…

>Reminder that fonts are subjective. Yes but you can survey a fraction of a population and make strong statistical claims such as, “most people found so and so font more readable”.

Which population though? There are differences in age groups. People who grew up only with print won't lean toward a sans. People who grew up only with screens will lean toward sans, etc.

If you go with that metric of doing a survey, then the answer is Times New Roman and Arial, not because they are superior (though they have excellent hinting) but due to long-term familiarity and exposure.

I don't have a problem with providing what people are comfortable with, but comfort does not necessarily translate to better. It's subjective.

Companies commissioning their own fonts, is not due to a desire to get improved quality, but simply to not have to pay a licensing fee for usage.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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I like this idea, but when I go to the web page... > Download the Font… and change the world! By downloading, installing and/or using the font software, you confirm that you have read and agree to be bound by the terms of this End-User License Agreement... Sigh. I guess I need to read that EULA. Anyway, clicking on that then downloads a pdf rather than a nice link to some web page text. Sigh. So then anyway, trying t…

PDF also cannot change from underneath you, unlike a web page. Better to have a copy of what the license was at the time you agreed to it, imo.

PDF can change the same as any other format. Yes, line length in an html file if not specified is left to the browser, but css exist and also there are other formats, like txt.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Not sure why it wouldn't open for you, but it opens fine in Chrome on Mac. I thought it would be some ridiculous 50 page legalese but it's actually only 1.5 pages long. it's basically a license similar to what you'd see on a Github repo.

But why PDF at all? Is there a reason to put the online license in a PDF? Or any other places, like the restaurant menus? is there anybody who wants/needs to print the license or the restaurant menu?

PDF works better when downloaded, sent over e-mail, printed to be used in a court case or hard archives, and has stood the test of time.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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post #106

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I was showing this exact problem to my wife, a moment after trying to order something from The Container Store and their website being broken, just after trying to pay a bill and that website not working too. I swear to God this f**ing industry.

Do you have an adblocker on? It will frequently break sites especially in the checkout process I have found (probably because their crappy code calls some tracking/analytics script without try/catch and can't continue). 90% of the time disabling it for the page will fix these broken sites.

> I swear to God this f*ing industry.

this again. Developers and any publisher should test their stuff with ad blockers enabled.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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It is more legible than your average "font-family: sans-serif” (aka Arial, Roboto, Helvetica) but it’s not that much of an “original idea”. For example Frutiger by Adrian Frutiger, a type family that a lot of airports use as it’s designed with legibility at long distances, or even the Verdana by Matthew Carter, ubiquitous web font that powers this and a lot of other websites’ typography that has specifically designed…

It looks almost exactly like Helvetica.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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I like this idea, but when I go to the web page... > Download the Font… and change the world! By downloading, installing and/or using the font software, you confirm that you have read and agree to be bound by the terms of this End-User License Agreement... Sigh. I guess I need to read that EULA. Anyway, clicking on that then downloads a pdf rather than a nice link to some web page text. Sigh. So then anyway, trying t…

PDF also cannot change from underneath you, unlike a web page. Better to have a copy of what the license was at the time you agreed to it, imo.

I guess it depends on what wrote the PDF as to how much can be edited later, but I'm constantly opening/modifying/resaving PDFs.
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