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Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by jackblemming »

Sunspark wrote: post #64

Reminder that fonts are subjective. This one is good for specific people, not everyone. I can't use it because I find it overly rounded with tics. An example of a font that is also meant to be legible, but is on the squarish side, is Tiresias Screenfont. Increased legibility does NOT mean "flow". Just because each character is more "distinct" does not mean that the whole word is able to be processed with ease. Import…

>Reminder that fonts are subjective.

Yes but you can survey a fraction of a population and make strong statistical claims such as, “most people found so and so font more readable”.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by KMnO4 »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #87
soco wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why PDF at all? Is there a reason to put the online license in a PDF? Or any other places, like the restaurant menus? is there anybody who wants/needs to print the license or the restaurant menu?

I really hate those restaurants that only have QR codes on the table for menus. A restaurant is for eating and talking, not for messing around with my phone. I avoid those now. During Covid there was a slight point (though it was pretty soon proven that surface transmission was so minor a factor not to warrant such actions). But now we should just go back to normal menus.

Heh. I went to a sushi restaurant recently and sat down to an iPad menu. After ordering a few rolls and confirming the order, it was delivered by a robot[0]. After finishing the plates, I returned them to the robot which carried them away. I scanned a QR code on the table which allowed me to pay for everything from my phone.

Curiously, I was presented with options to tip 18%, 20%, 30%, or other. I thought about it and tipped accordingly to the effort the waitress put into my experience.

Shortly after, the manager came to me (essentially the first point of human interaction) and asked if there was anything wrong that caused me to tip 0%.

So yes, I too really hate the direction restaurants are heading in.

[0]: https://www.pudurobotics.com/product/detail/pudubot2

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by sumul »

fredleblanc wrote: post #4

Also worth checking out is the Lexend family: https://www.lexend.com/ I love seeing this push into legibility!

Yes! I auditioned dozens of fonts for the UI of https://figure.game and chose Lexend for its legibility, even at small sizes. It’s also got lots of understated charm and character (no pun intended) in my opinion. After reading about the project, I was very impressed with the reading fluency improvements reported, especially considering that (to me) it just looks like a very classy contemporary geometric sans.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by ainar-g »

h3mb3 wrote: post #103

The designer/YouTuber Linus Boman has a video [1] about this font and his involvement in the project, it's a pretty interesting watch IMO. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjE5eHLICzc

Linus' channel is severely underappreciated. I especially enjoyed his dive into the typography of comedy club logos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPmlv7cDk6Q.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by cyral »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #79
OneLeggedCat wrote: post #12

I like this idea, but when I go to the web page... > Download the Font… and change the world! By downloading, installing and/or using the font software, you confirm that you have read and agree to be bound by the terms of this End-User License Agreement... Sigh. I guess I need to read that EULA. Anyway, clicking on that then downloads a pdf rather than a nice link to some web page text. Sigh. So then anyway, trying t…

I was showing this exact problem to my wife, a moment after trying to order something from The Container Store and their website being broken, just after trying to pay a bill and that website not working too. I swear to God this f**ing industry.

Do you have an adblocker on? It will frequently break sites especially in the checkout process I have found (probably because their crappy code calls some tracking/analytics script without try/catch and can't continue). 90% of the time disabling it for the page will fix these broken sites.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by michaelmrose »

kulhur wrote: post #50
OneLeggedCat wrote: post #12

I like this idea, but when I go to the web page... > Download the Font… and change the world! By downloading, installing and/or using the font software, you confirm that you have read and agree to be bound by the terms of this End-User License Agreement... Sigh. I guess I need to read that EULA. Anyway, clicking on that then downloads a pdf rather than a nice link to some web page text. Sigh. So then anyway, trying t…

> Why must everything in the world be so hard? linux user?

Firefox and chrome will both open the PDF by default unless you tell it to use your own reader.

Both gnome and KDE come with a capable reader better than your browser.

If you don't like those there are several options.

Reading a pdf under Linux is super easy.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by throwaway_forev »

shakabrah wrote: post #45

An aside: Why is it that most posts about a new product or project some people have put together is usually greeted with skepticism and negativity in HN comments? What is that all about? It is a pattern Ive continuously seen and it seems like only the true home runs receive any kind of praise. Most replies are either about lack of evidence or someone’s alternative preference. I see that latter one a good deal.

It is not just when there is a post about a new product or project. More broadly for ANY post here, the top comment and most comments will generally claim the opposite of what the original post presents is true (or some variation of that).

I would say mainly it is just the need for some people to feel good about themselves that they know better, or to try to show that they are smarter than the author of the post (so that again, they can feel better about themselves).

Don't take the comments too seriously. A lot of people think they are smarter than they actually are.

And next time notice, whatever the post is, when you click to view the comments expect the top one to have a contrarian view.

EDIT: As an example, as of right now, this post is the top post on HN. The second top post on HN?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32800869

Title: "Build Your Career on Dirty Work"

Top Comment: "Really bad advice! Hard work does not pay"

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Upon further thought, looking at the bright side (less cynical), I guess this does help give a more balanced view of the topic as you get to quickly see both sides of a story. But it's still kind of funny that this consistently happens.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by IncRnd »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #92
DiabloD3 wrote: post #17

Although the font did really try to nail its goal, I think Iosevka really nailed it. On top of that, somebody took some of what Atkinson did with their font, and applied it to Iosevka, using its insanely powerful ability to be customized wildly, to produce http://thedarnedestthing.com/iosevka%20hyperlegible

the irony of having "hyperlegible" in the title when the title itself is barely legible. using a tiny 11px grey colour font, the body text is borderline while the navigation text is almost transparent.

Meybe they did that for their target audience to see that the font is legible.

Re: Atkinson Hyperlegible Font

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Post by cyral »

einpoklum wrote: post #39
OneLeggedCat wrote: post #12

I like this idea, but when I go to the web page... > Download the Font… and change the world! By downloading, installing and/or using the font software, you confirm that you have read and agree to be bound by the terms of this End-User License Agreement... Sigh. I guess I need to read that EULA. Anyway, clicking on that then downloads a pdf rather than a nice link to some web page text. Sigh. So then anyway, trying t…

> By downloading, installing and/or using the font software, you confirm that you have read and agree to be bound by the terms of this End-User License Agreement ... says them. I don't agree and I don't confirm. I can download the font without accepting/consenting to whatever text they put on the web page. And if they're not ok with that - they can limit the availability of the download to only those who accept whate…

> Except they won't do that, since that would harm adoption of their font.

Is it because it would harm adoption or because it's infeasible? You can download copyrighted images and use them for your own profit, copy github code with GPL code for your closed-source project, or sign pretty much any contract (say for a car or a house) without actually reading it. Just because there is no safeguard to ensure you are really read what you "agreed" to, doesn't mean it's unenforcable.

Moreover, the terms are very simple (1.5 pages) - hardly some "weird terms" to define how you are allowed to redistribute intellectual property.

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