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Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

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Re: Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

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This almost seems plausible until you realize that Gnome 3 has all the polish of Unity but none of the immediately obvious bugs. If they had simply contributed to Gnome 3 instead of breaking off into their own thing, the result would be far ahead of what they have now.

Re: Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

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Alt-tab works, but alt-shift-tab does not - or at least did not work for me when I upgraded. Not wanting to waste time looking for a workaround, I just reverted to my backup and forgot about Unity.

What Alt-Shift-Tab did?

if we define alt tab as moving forward through windows, alt-shift-tab moves backwards

Re: Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

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Well for one example: I use 2 large monitors to work with and run allot of applications at the same time. With gnome 2 I can put a seperate taskbar on each monitor and switch quickly between tasks with the keyboard or mouse. I also have another panel with buttons to launch my most common apps. Small amount of mouse movement and 1 click. With unity I have to drag the mouse right to the far left or my furthest left mon…

OK. I see how it can be problem with two monitors but aren't shortcuts like (Start+1) helping in this case? While I still see problem with eyes movement. Lastly I'm against idea using multiple monitors so I don't feel competent enough to comment. Problem with GUI apps from shell script is bug in my opinion but I was not affected by it yet.

I use two monitors at work, and I can't imagine using just one. The productivity boost is great.

Re: Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

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I consider myself power user. I am developer, I have experience with Windows, Mac OS X, BSD OSes and Linuxes. I have actually tried various desktop environments and WMs (including several tiling managers, I have used awesome WM for half a year). Overall I really love experimenting with software to the very deep level. I have tried Unity and I really like it. It is simple and it does what I need. It respects my screen…

Well for one example: I use 2 large monitors to work with and run allot of applications at the same time. With gnome 2 I can put a seperate taskbar on each monitor and switch quickly between tasks with the keyboard or mouse. I also have another panel with buttons to launch my most common apps. Small amount of mouse movement and 1 click. With unity I have to drag the mouse right to the far left or my furthest left mon…

I use two monitors and I solved this problem by using multiple desktops. Every desktop has one of my "tasks". When I want to see what other window is doing, I move to that given desktop. This way, each desktop has one "context" - Emacs and a development server, a browser and another window to the same development server (screen is your friend), one with various "social" things - IM, Skype, IRC, Twitter - and others with assorted activities (managing servers on Amazon, remote upgrading my mom's computer (Unity is very grandma-friendly) and so on. If I'm ever lost, Super-S brings me everything up in a simple and easy way.

My two problems with Unity: It's too easy to get to get to the launcher when I want to hit the browser's back button and all my Super-related Emacs shortcuts had to be relocated. Now I need a Hyper key.

Re: Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

#55
post #3

It's been "the year of desktop Linux" every year since about 2006 for me. Who cares what everyone else is using? Just find a system you're happy with and stick with it.

"""Who cares what everyone else is using?""" A lot of people. It's called "network effects": if more people use my OS of choice, I get more stuff for it, from support to applications to resources to see it develop faster. The real question is "who cares what YOU are using?". Why there always has to be one guy in every discussion of desktop Linux, going "I use it on my desktop just fine"? We don't care, and it's not w…

I care about what I am using, and he cares about what he is using. We don't care what they are using. Any of your arguments as to why we should would apply equally well to cars, but you never see people have that conversation.

Re: Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

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post #52
post #47

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What Alt-Shift-Tab did?

if we define alt tab as moving forward through windows, alt-shift-tab moves backwards

I kind of solved it with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3280187

In the end, it feels much more natural and "spacial" - rather than having a small desktop with things piled on it, I have a context-dependent desktop.

Re: Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

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post #10

I consider myself power user. I am developer, I have experience with Windows, Mac OS X, BSD OSes and Linuxes. I have actually tried various desktop environments and WMs (including several tiling managers, I have used awesome WM for half a year). Overall I really love experimenting with software to the very deep level. I have tried Unity and I really like it. It is simple and it does what I need. It respects my screen…

Well for one example: I use 2 large monitors to work with and run allot of applications at the same time. With gnome 2 I can put a seperate taskbar on each monitor and switch quickly between tasks with the keyboard or mouse. I also have another panel with buttons to launch my most common apps. Small amount of mouse movement and 1 click. With unity I have to drag the mouse right to the far left or my furthest left mon…

I have 2 24 inchers and what I do to get my "set up" in the morning is I have all the applications I need arranged in my launcher:

From top to bottom I have file manager and browser, then all my apps that I need to have open on my launcher, so I just hold down my winkey then hit 3,4,5,6 and my mail, irc, trello, calendar all launch, then I'm done.

Re: Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

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Thirded, Geeks are coding away at some application feature, managing servers, updating designs, watching some TV show, browsing the web, discussing project goals over skype with team members and other mundane things – all this on a slow day. I disagree. I have three windows open. Google Chrome (with, unfortunately for my productivity, Hacker News open), Emacs, and a Gnome Terminal (I X forward my Emacs session from m…

Alt-tab works, but alt-shift-tab does not - or at least did not work for me when I upgraded. Not wanting to waste time looking for a workaround, I just reverted to my backup and forgot about Unity.

Alt-shift-tab cycles backwards through the window stack for me. What did you want it to do that it is not?

Re: Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

#59
Jesus. A decent, level headed article, ended with the same fear mongering of every other article where the author doesn't like Unity. For some reason, if Ubuntu has Unity has the default launcher, you must choose a different distribution in order to use a different DE. Because a distro's DE is more important than it's package management, community, available random software, etc.

Re: Ubuntu’s move to Unity is the best thing that ever happened to Linux

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post #9

I held off until couple days ago on installing 11 with Unity and was very frustrated... I didn't want to believe it, but it was way too dumbed down for me. I was almost insulted... If I want pretty GFX and UI I'll just use my mac. Yes, you can disable Unity... But the issue for me is a lot of man power will be spent on it. Manpower that could be put to use on other things.

I see the "dumbed down" complaint a lot, but I don't understand it. What is missing from Unity that you could do before? Or is it that if something is pretty or simple it is automatically worth less somehow than something ugly or complicated?

For me Unity is far more powerful out of the box than GNOME 2 was. Being able to position and tile windows with the keyboard and having 10 applications easily and automatically bound to a keystroke are huge timesavers for me.

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