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Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by HyperSane »

aloknnikhil wrote: post #68
paisawalla wrote: post #57

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Indian action films typically don't strive for believable action scenes, like American films do. Instead, they apply the effects and stunts excessively -- they go over the top in a major way. The embarrassment is for the comparably unsophisticated tastes, and I don't share the feeling but I can understand. It's like everyone discovering that your uncle is addicted to something cheap and insubstantial that only childr…

Being over the top is a unique characteristic of the Indian Cinema. If I wanted to watch "believable action scenes", I'd go watch a documentary. I honestly don't get this idea of standardizing everything as the West does. It's a great idea for some. For art? Come on.

At some point the absurdity of action scenes in Indian movies just makes suspension of disbelief impossible for me.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by HyperSane »

dereg wrote: post #198
paisawalla wrote: post #172

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Hah point taken, let me put it a different way. In American films, if someone does extreme, superhuman stunts, the filmmaker typically feels pressure to explain that the character is actually superhuman in some way and not an ordinary guy with an office job. And he or she will be in peak physical shape. In Indian film, an utterly ordinary character in "office job" physical condition will catch bullets, run faster tha…

> No pressure to explain the seeming contradiction with ordinary reality this is a feature and not a bug. The urge for excessive exposition is so tiring. Not everything needs an origins story, explanation, or a prequel. Hollywood has been leaning on that formula and you can see it in the product - the movies have become tiresome. Nobody needs an explanation for their “powers”. Excessively qualifying a character more…

If bob the accountant lifts a car overhead I DO expect an explanation of how he can do that.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by NavinF »

bsder wrote: post #185
NavinF wrote: post #84

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Some blockers I've encountered after spending a lot of time in FreeCAD: - No built-in assembly workbench. If you create more than 1 object, there is no way to align/attach them together. There are several competing, incompatible, and buggy plugins. - Topological naming problem is way worse than in paid CAD software. It's very difficult to edit old constraints without breaking new actions as they're replayed: https://…

> Topological naming problem is way worse than in paid CAD software. It's very difficult to edit old constraints without breaking new actions as they're replayed: https://wiki.freecadweb.org/Topological_naming_problem This is the single, number one, absolute must fix problem in FreeCAD. All other FreeCAD work should stop until this gets fixed. Period. Broken constraints were bad enough, but as an amateur I could live…

> All other FreeCAD work should stop until this gets fixed. Period.

Ha ha that's exactly what would happen if FreeCAD was a company and had a product manager, but it's very unlikely that would happen organically.

Maybe some day a megacorp will get so pissed off by solidworks licensing that they fork FreeCAD, rewrite opencascade, fix the high priority bugs, and release code+binaries out of spite. A man can dream.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by notthemessiah »

HyperSane wrote: post #261
aloknnikhil wrote: post #68

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Being over the top is a unique characteristic of the Indian Cinema. If I wanted to watch "believable action scenes", I'd go watch a documentary. I honestly don't get this idea of standardizing everything as the West does. It's a great idea for some. For art? Come on.

At some point the absurdity of action scenes in Indian movies just makes suspension of disbelief impossible for me.

I'm sorry, but the top US movies any better? Between Star Wars and Avengers, there's not much left in the way of believability. It's better when they don't take themselves as seriously.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by nicolas_t »

thematrixturtle wrote: post #212
echelon wrote: post #175

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> Americans are paid a higher wage. For now. The rest of the world is rapidly catching up in pretty much every sphere. But take movies: America has but a paltry 330 M people. The appetite for "American" media will wane as India, China, and other vastly more populous Asian countries begin to produce Hollywood-caliber films. American box office increasingly relies on non-domestic consumption. Chinese films are doing bi…

I agree with your broad assessment that the glory days of Hollywood are over, but am not quite as optimistic on the future of Asian cinema. Chinese media is crippled for the foreseeable future by heavy state censorship, including micromanagement of plotlines: can't do anything that lets the bad guys win or shows the state in a bad light. I also note you don't include Japan, which is rich and has a population of 100M+…

China's movies have peaked in the 90s. Take a director like Zhang Yimou, he hasn't made any decent movies in the las 15 years because of state censorship. None of his best movies could be directed today: To live, Ju Dou, The Story of Qiu Ju or Raise the Red Lantern. The same with Chen Kaige or any of the great directors in Mainland China. Even a relatively recent movie like Beijing bicycle would not be possible today.

Even if a lot of those movies were banned in China on release, there were much less consequences for a director of a banned movie than nowadays.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by weinzierl »

addandsubtract wrote: post #266
weinzierl wrote: post #260

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Works for me. What error do you get?

The "You are not in the US" error.

Sorry I can't fix that;-) I'm in Germany and it works here, so not everyone outside the US is blocked. It's sad that some people are excluded though.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by pvsukale3 »

lwn wrote: post #140
pvsukale3 wrote: post #43

Unrelated: If you enjoyed RRR and it's over the top drama, action sequences you might also like following movies. 1) Bahubali 1 & 2 (same director) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G62HrubdD6o 2) KGF chapter 1 and 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qah9sSIXJqk

I absolutely loved Baahubali and watched RRR last night for the first time. I'm planning to watch KFG tonight. I'd highly recommend Tumbbad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumbbad too.

Tumbbad is highly underrated. PS it is set in the city where I'm from,Pune.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by pvsukale3 »

tomcam wrote: post #162
pvsukale3 wrote: post #98

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On top of my mind, not an exhaustive list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geetha_Govindam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%2796_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saathiya_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sairat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_States_(2014_film) https://youtu.be/XTTAHt4VlUA

You are my new best friend. Cannot wait to see these!

Do let me know if you like any of them :)

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by mikymoothrowa »

dagmx wrote: post #138
mikymoothrowa wrote: post #109

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Those articles reaffirm more the extreme political mentality of vox and slate than any political leanings of the director. That these websites practically thrive on conjuring up issues even where none exists should surprise no one.

How can you possibly seriously describe Vox as extreme? Perhaps they’re more liberally biased but “extreme”? There’s no world where that would be an accurate description

they’re extreme as in the conspiracy theories they cook up are EXTREMELY nonsensical.

It doesn’t matter how far left they are or what that even means

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