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Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by silentsea90 »

rockemsockem wrote: post #124
blackoil wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The budget of ~60 million is huge by Indian standard not by Hollywood where >200 million is now increasingly common.

My favorite comparison now is to look at what the Indian Mars Orbiter Mission cost. It cost $73 million (according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Orbiter_Mission ) RRR's budget was $72 million (according to Wikipedia: ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RRR_(film) ) Seems a bit crazy with that comparison.

Funnier still was a comparison between Indian Mars Orbital Mission ($73 M) and the budgets for Gravity ($100M), The Martian ($108M), Interstellar ($165M). ISRO (India's space agency) engineers missions to Mars for the price it takes Hollywood to make movies with Mars, space etc.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by nsajko »

throwaway49374 wrote: post #149
throwaway49374 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1

My +1 is for the parent propaganda comment, Bollywood has a lot of right wing propaganda these days.

FTR, it seems that this is categorized as a "Tollywood" (Telugu) movie, as opposed to Bollywood (Hindi).

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by echelon »

hilbertseries wrote: post #178
echelon wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Americans are paid a higher wage. For now. The rest of the world is rapidly catching up in pretty much every sphere. But take movies: America has but a paltry 330 M people. The appetite for "American" media will wane as India, China, and other vastly more populous Asian countries begin to produce Hollywood-caliber films. American box office increasingly relies on non-domestic consumption. Chinese films are doing bi…

> Korea is starting to sweep the Oscars, Emmy's, and Golden Globes. I don’t think Korea won a single award at the Oscars this year. They won a single golden globe and two Emmys. It’s just parasite and squid game, so far. They are very far from sweeping the award ceremonies.

I was referring to Parasite, which won six Oscars, including the coveted Best Picture and Best Director nods. That was two years ago, but it speaks to the new high water mark Korea is now hitting at.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by asenna »

dagmx wrote: post #34
vipa123 wrote: post #5

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Is it any good?

It’s highly enjoyable though it is also very nationalist propaganda in parts, which foreigners won’t pick up on. For the most part it never becomes an issue because the brunt of the movie is fighting colonialism and therefore quite appropriate and incredibly good. The end credit scene is the only part that I’d consider problematic from a messaging standpoint as it takes a hard line on who they celebrate and isn’t sub…

I agree with this. I saw this in the theater in India and the overtly Hindutva stuff definitely got me laughing. It's not even subtle, hard to miss when you know the context.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by bsder »

NavinF wrote: post #84
spaghettiToy wrote: post #3

I hope to have one of these articles about FreeCAD one day. Maybe the stakes are lower for movies than engineering and that's why it hasn't happened yet.

Some blockers I've encountered after spending a lot of time in FreeCAD: - No built-in assembly workbench. If you create more than 1 object, there is no way to align/attach them together. There are several competing, incompatible, and buggy plugins. - Topological naming problem is way worse than in paid CAD software. It's very difficult to edit old constraints without breaking new actions as they're replayed: https://…

> Topological naming problem is way worse than in paid CAD software. It's very difficult to edit old constraints without breaking new actions as they're replayed: https://wiki.freecadweb.org/Topological_naming_problem

This is the single, number one, absolute must fix problem in FreeCAD. All other FreeCAD work should stop until this gets fixed. Period.

Broken constraints were bad enough, but as an amateur I could live with them. However, every now and then the system would renumber and reconnect constraints wrongly. That's just not acceptable and should never happen.

Until FreeCAD fixes this not only can't I recommend it but I have to give anti-recommendations to stay far, far away from it. That pains me greatly as FreeCAD is the only piece of open-source software I have ever had to chase people away from.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by gamblor956 »

krama wrote: post #46

Who cares if they used Blender or Maya. As an Indian (and a South Indian at that), I must say I’m embarrassed at the level of attention this movie is getting for its over the top use of cringey special effects. There are so many other worthwhile Indian films to watch and enjoy.

Agreed, while the movie was fun to watch, the FX are quite poor compared to US films. In terms of something American viewers would understand: it's about the equivalent of a Disney Plus show like the Mandalorian or Ms Marvel.

As far as FX quality goes, the recently released Bhramastra sets the high watermark for Indian films. The FX are Hollywood level...probably because it's made by Disney's Indian film studios (Star Studios) and the FX were outsourced to some of the same FX studios working on Marvel films. (And as a side bonus, there isn't any of the weird fetishization of British/white women or obsequious political pandering to the India's current ultra-nationalist government like there are in RRR.)

As an example of the difference in FX quality: in RRR, you're always aware of the artificial nature of the CGI because it doesn't "blend" into the world around it; the CGI sits on top of the world and is clearly separate from the action on screen. The animal FX are especially bad. In Bhramastra, the "astra" that give people various powers blend in with, light up, and shade the world around them even though they're purely CGI.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by bergenty »

jmartrican wrote: post #100

I can't finish watching this movie because I do not want to see the two dudes fight each other. lol. I want to live in a world where they still BFFs.

This is a spoiler you probably want to get rid of it though you can probably see what you’re saying coming.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by gamblor956 »

GiorgioG wrote: post #99
paisawalla wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indian action films typically don't strive for believable action scenes, like American films do. Instead, they apply the effects and stunts excessively -- they go over the top in a major way. The embarrassment is for the comparably unsophisticated tastes, and I don't share the feeling but I can understand. It's like everyone discovering that your uncle is addicted to something cheap and insubstantial that only childr…

I don't think American films strive for believable action scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elpUGB9Ap1Y

Tom Cruise actually performed that stunt. There is a highlight BTS reel showing how they composited that shot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZjsZCMBT-s one of several; just the first result in my Google search). As you can see, he's very well secured to the plane in the BTS footage; the cables and other protection are composited out in post-production. Similarly, in the water tank scene later in the movie, Cruise actually jumped 120 feet into water, and held his breath in a water tank for several minutes (though the fountain in the jump, and the arm in the tank were both composited into the scene in post).

In fact, Tom Cruise actually performs most of his stunts, especially for the MI movies. It's kind of his thing; while the context of the stunt might be CGI the action itself is real.

He's worth more than a billion dollars, so he can afford to pay specialists to train him; he supposedly spent over a year learning to hold his breath for several minutes just for the water tank scene.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by bergenty »

dagmx wrote: post #78
bergenty wrote: post #59

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What are you talking about? The part where they refer to Indian freedom fighters? Because I thought they did a really good job of highlighting a lot of them, not just well known ones and across vast political spectrums. I mean they had Bhagat Singh and Subhash Chandra Bose as well as Shivaji and Mirabai.

That scene was good till you consider a few factors: - Bose was allied with the Nazi’s. I know it’s debatable whether the ends justify the means but he also held some fairly hostile views that are being used again - there were notable omissions of freedom fighters who preached peace , but more importantly, those who were against the division of Pakistan and India. I shared a couple links above in an edit, but there’s…

Bose “aligned” with the Nazis so he could free the Indian POWs captured by the Japanese which he then used to build the Indian national army. Also, the Nazis were fighting the British who in India were enemy number one. He wasn’t antisemitic or racist so his alignment is pretty irrelevant.

Re: Visual effects for the Indian blockbuster “RRR”

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Post by otikik »

echelon wrote: post #183
hilbertseries wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Korea is starting to sweep the Oscars, Emmy's, and Golden Globes. I don’t think Korea won a single award at the Oscars this year. They won a single golden globe and two Emmys. It’s just parasite and squid game, so far. They are very far from sweeping the award ceremonies.

I was referring to Parasite , which won six Oscars, including the coveted Best Picture and Best Director nods. That was two years ago, but it speaks to the new high water mark Korea is now hitting at.

Isn’t that a bit like saying that Australians are great at playing piano and singing songs and cracking jokes about religion because Tim Minchin exists?
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