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Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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how can it be free and not for profit at large scale?

The same way the internet, email, bittorrent and even cryptocurrencies are?

Most people have to pay for their internet connection.

Gmail used to be ad-supported, but is now just a loss-leader for other Google products.

Bittorrent is built on top of people's paid-for internet connections and cannot scale to anything like the size of YouTube.

Cryptocurrencies have transaction fees.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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"Pay to watch" I'm willing to bet that the algorithms will prioretize these videos over free videos... so, after watching a video on transistors (like you do now), you won't get a related video about history of computing (in the related bar, like you do now), but that video will get hidden, and you'll see a bunch of "pay to watch" content there. The result it, some people will pay for stuff that's already available f…

sounds like a loss situation for audience. win for a few creators and super win for yt

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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This reminds me of a saying I've heard from Dean Graziosi (sales type guy). "Sell them what they want, give them what they need". I also dislike this whole game where you have to essentially mould yourself into this "mainstream click-baity character", but part of me recognises that if your goal is to sell, then you'd be wise to spend time on presenting your content in a way that is at least initially attention grabbi…

> but part of me recognises that if your goal is to sell , then you'd be wise to spend time on presenting your content in a way that is at least initially attention grabbing. The issue is, I think, exactly that everyone must be at least partially a salesman to get ahead. Is this what we want? Is there a way for YouTube to compensate for clickbaity titles and thumbnails? Are they incentivized to do so? Thinking back a…

My first serious number theory course was called "number theory and cryptography." The professor told us on the first day that modern crypto is basically a trivial application of the major proof from the second half of the course, and that the title was basically click bait. Awesome class, a couple students got NSA interviewers later.

Click bait is ok sometimes?

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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Next year, qualified creators can begin offering free or paid Courses to provide in-depth, structured learning experiences for viewers. Viewers who choose to buy a Course can watch the video ad-free and play it in the background. So you're cloning Udemy? Meh. Not much to be excited about so far. Finally, to help learners apply what they’ve learned, we’re introducing Quizzes — a new way for creators to help viewers te…

>Does anybody ever actually visit the "Community" tab of a channel? They don't want creators funneling users to external sites like Patreon. They want 100% of their income going through Youtube. Same reason they roll out the "most replayed" feature, to make it easier to skip in-video sponsor segments.

How does most replayed make it easy to skip sponsors?

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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post #263

I produce Music Tech-based educational content on YT. It started as a hobby and sideline to my main work (which at the time was classroom teaching of the same content). While I'm no longer working in classrooms (pandemic plus other reasons led to this), I'm still producing content, which I think is of good quality and worthwhile. The issue I have with it is that I refuse to produce attention-grabbing clickbaity title…

Hi, I tried to find your channel, but I don't think I found it. Would you say it's name or link to it, if you don't mind me asking?

Hi. Its https://youtube.com/c/musictechtuition - thanks.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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I produce Music Tech-based educational content on YT. It started as a hobby and sideline to my main work (which at the time was classroom teaching of the same content). While I'm no longer working in classrooms (pandemic plus other reasons led to this), I'm still producing content, which I think is of good quality and worthwhile. The issue I have with it is that I refuse to produce attention-grabbing clickbaity title…

You should put a link to your stuff in your Hacker New profile.

Done, thanks!

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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I produce Music Tech-based educational content on YT. It started as a hobby and sideline to my main work (which at the time was classroom teaching of the same content). While I'm no longer working in classrooms (pandemic plus other reasons led to this), I'm still producing content, which I think is of good quality and worthwhile. The issue I have with it is that I refuse to produce attention-grabbing clickbaity title…

The least they could do is an in app thumbnail creator that's fairly decent.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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I think it all goes back to the fact that if we'd still have stars for rating videos on YouTube instead of algorithm-driven suggestions and no real way to decide whether people really liked the content or not, we wouldn't be here. That would not be necessary if I could still clearly see who's got good ratings and who doesn't

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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post #279

I think it all goes back to the fact that if we'd still have stars for rating videos on YouTube instead of algorithm-driven suggestions and no real way to decide whether people really liked the content or not, we wouldn't be here. That would not be necessary if I could still clearly see who's got good ratings and who doesn't

Without algorithm driven decisions I would not haven 90 percent of my very high quality feed.

Stars are usually worthless. People leave 1 star or 5 stars, that’s akin to a down or up vote. And with the algorithm you never look at the ratings, really; you just trust the feed, because it’s good!

YouTube’s algorithm is extremely good when you know how to give it a helping hand, especially for educational content. I’m quite happy they’re pushing for more educational tools and ways for educational creators to make money.

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