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Is early-onset cancer an emerging global epidemic?

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Re: Is early-onset cancer an emerging global epidemic?

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If we're going to throw out random theories for the cause like diet and pollution, what about all the volatile chemicals off-gassing from freshly manufactured goods?

This is known issue, at least of late. There was a recent article posted here (can’t find it right now on mobile) about how that New Car Smell is caused, to some degree, by known carcinogens.

Well, what isn’t a carcinogen? That word gets thrown around way too much — most food items we regularly eat contains several carcinogens, but besides increasing the statistical chance of cancer they are not imminently dangerous without further clarification on the metric of the effect.

Re: Is early-onset cancer an emerging global epidemic?

#83
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> lies/bad science about cholesterol & saturated fat being unhealthy Are you saying cholesterol and saturated fats aren't unhealthy? I'm confused.

Yes, check out this report from Credit Suisse that sums up the state of the art research on the topic: https://research-doc.credit-suisse.com/docView?language=ENG&... Bottom line is saturated fat is not implicated whatsoever in any negative health outcomes.

Just as an aside: This document is interesting. Not saying it isn't valid but I'm just wondering why a bank produced this. It's not just an economic forecast of the health foods market. It's an entire breakdown of the nutrition. Who is the target audience? It looks like the work of some consultants possibly

Re: Is early-onset cancer an emerging global epidemic?

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The most disturbing part, to me, is this: > The early-onset cancer epidemic might be one manifestation of increasing trends in the development of many chronic diseases in young and future generations. Why are chronic diseases trending upwards? Is it the obvious things (pollution, microplastics, obesity, massive drain on mental health from the modern lifestyle, etc.), or is there something else going on?

The result of misguidance from health professionals, big food & big pharma marketing. Not acknowledging that health is largely a result of lifestyle choices, and that pharmaceuticals are mostly ineffective and often harmful. And now for the specifics: - lies/bad science about meat (particularly red meat) being unhealthy - lies/bad science about cholesterol & saturated fat being unhealthy - not attacking sugar and pro…

Big Sugar is mostly an American problem due to the industry’s lobbying. If people are not exposed to that level of sweetness they seriously can’t even eat your bread. Also, why allow that level of drug marketing everywhere? That’s also not a thing in other developed countries. So I really don’t think it is fair to call out scientists when these two industries have your politicians in their hands.

Re: Is early-onset cancer an emerging global epidemic?

#85
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My guess: Environmental toxins, antibiotic use and poor diet leading to loss of microbiome diversity/dysbiosis and consequential disruption to the body’s homeostatic processes.

How to really take care of the microbiome?

Eat lots of prebiotic rich vegetables and fruits. Fiber is food for gut bacteria. Also eat plenty of fermented foods. These things increase good gut bacteria and decrease the bad ones.

Avoid alcohol, sugar, and processed foods. These things increase bad gut bacteria and decrease the good ones.

Re: Is early-onset cancer an emerging global epidemic?

#86
post #48

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> lies/bad science about cholesterol & saturated fat being unhealthy Are you saying cholesterol and saturated fats aren't unhealthy? I'm confused.

Yes, check out this report from Credit Suisse that sums up the state of the art research on the topic: https://research-doc.credit-suisse.com/docView?language=ENG&... Bottom line is saturated fat is not implicated whatsoever in any negative health outcomes.

From the article: "A proper review of the so called “fat paradoxes” (France, Israel and Japan) suggests that saturated fats are actually healthy and omega-6 fats, at current levels of consumption in the developed world, are not necessarily so"

That probably means a whole ton of marketing material touting Omega oils has to be thrown away.

Re: Is early-onset cancer an emerging global epidemic?

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The most disturbing part, to me, is this: > The early-onset cancer epidemic might be one manifestation of increasing trends in the development of many chronic diseases in young and future generations. Why are chronic diseases trending upwards? Is it the obvious things (pollution, microplastics, obesity, massive drain on mental health from the modern lifestyle, etc.), or is there something else going on?

The result of misguidance from health professionals, big food & big pharma marketing. Not acknowledging that health is largely a result of lifestyle choices, and that pharmaceuticals are mostly ineffective and often harmful. And now for the specifics: - lies/bad science about meat (particularly red meat) being unhealthy - lies/bad science about cholesterol & saturated fat being unhealthy - not attacking sugar and pro…

>pharmaceuticals are mostly ineffective

Something tells me you don't understand the vast scale of pharmaceuticals, many of which keep people alive. Mostly "ineffective", come on.

>I say this for experience, until I fell ill I had no idea about either of those things.

Your personal experiences and biology cannot be extrapolated onto the world at large.

Re: Is early-onset cancer an emerging global epidemic?

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> following the advice of eating small meals often This must be an american thing. I've always been told the opposite advice all my life. Interesting.

Eating small meals often is a way people control urge and hunger. I don't think it's American only. For a LONG time bodybuilding touted the 6 meals a day to lose weight strategy.

> For a LONG time bodybuilding touted the 6 meals a day to lose weight strategy.

Pretty sure it's to gain weight. So you're all day eating.

To drop in weight, it's better to eat lowcarb,keto,carnivore. Fat/protein is makes you more full and eat less.

Re: Is early-onset cancer an emerging global epidemic?

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> "However, the effects of individual exposures remain largely unknown. To study early-life exposures and their implications for multiple cancer types will require prospective cohort studies with dedicated biobanking and data collection technologies." What that means is analytical body-burden data collection should be a medical norm, for a variety of substances: polychlorinated biphenyls, triazine herbicides (atrazin…

Even Nature stated microplastics are everywhere, yet we do not know what effects it will have.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01143-3

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