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Eight Secret Societies (2016)

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I'm a Freemason. I haven't been to a lodge meeting in quite awhile, but there are a few observations I think worth making: * "Secret societies" have an air of mystique about them, and that played no small part in my joining. The theatricality of some rituals gives a sense of gravitas to the group that is often lacking in everyday life. * Freemasonry at least does a lot of quiet charity. There is a not-insignificant a…

Dude, ping me with your lodge number and I will definitely visit if I'm in your city. Part of what attracted me to Freemasonry was the quality of their enemies, as whatever those accusers had a problem with, I was pretty sure I wanted to be on the other team. The other thing was finding the pigpen cipher doing security work. It's so not-secret I don't mind being relatively open about it, as you know that every other…

I have not visited a lodge since I moved across country. My "home" lodge was Blue Lodge #24, in Brookings, SD.

But yes, I agree with your observation about Masonry being a kind of neutral territory and equalizer. I have known Masons that, in public, I am adamantly opposed to... but under the roof of a lodge, get along with perfectly fine.

Another thing that always struck me as interesting is that Masons do not recruit. This is an intentional policy, and fascinating. Once I discovered the existence of my home lodge, I had to seek them out. There were no flyers or "you should come by sometime" offhand comments.

Re: Eight Secret Societies (2016)

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I'm a Freemason. I haven't been to a lodge meeting in quite awhile, but there are a few observations I think worth making: * "Secret societies" have an air of mystique about them, and that played no small part in my joining. The theatricality of some rituals gives a sense of gravitas to the group that is often lacking in everyday life. * Freemasonry at least does a lot of quiet charity. There is a not-insignificant a…

What do you get from it? (Not in a materialistic sense)

Back when I was still active, it was a sense of belonging more profound than simple friendship or kinship. Moving away made that feeling diminish over time.

I miss that. I think I need to get in touch with the local lodge and reconnect.

Re: Eight Secret Societies (2016)

#83

I'm a Freemason. I haven't been to a lodge meeting in quite awhile, but there are a few observations I think worth making: * "Secret societies" have an air of mystique about them, and that played no small part in my joining. The theatricality of some rituals gives a sense of gravitas to the group that is often lacking in everyday life. * Freemasonry at least does a lot of quiet charity. There is a not-insignificant a…

Dude, ping me with your lodge number and I will definitely visit if I'm in your city. Part of what attracted me to Freemasonry was the quality of their enemies, as whatever those accusers had a problem with, I was pretty sure I wanted to be on the other team. The other thing was finding the pigpen cipher doing security work. It's so not-secret I don't mind being relatively open about it, as you know that every other…

Great comment, thank you.

>breaking co-dependency habits and other boyhood things a lot of guys never manage to grow past

could you elaborate?

Re: Eight Secret Societies (2016)

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I'm a Freemason. I haven't been to a lodge meeting in quite awhile, but there are a few observations I think worth making: * "Secret societies" have an air of mystique about them, and that played no small part in my joining. The theatricality of some rituals gives a sense of gravitas to the group that is often lacking in everyday life. * Freemasonry at least does a lot of quiet charity. There is a not-insignificant a…

In France, where their attitude to adultery is rather relaxed, Freemasonry is often a coed activity. Hiding affairs under a seal of masonic secrecy would be dangerous business in America.

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Dude, ping me with your lodge number and I will definitely visit if I'm in your city. Part of what attracted me to Freemasonry was the quality of their enemies, as whatever those accusers had a problem with, I was pretty sure I wanted to be on the other team. The other thing was finding the pigpen cipher doing security work. It's so not-secret I don't mind being relatively open about it, as you know that every other…

I have not visited a lodge since I moved across country. My "home" lodge was Blue Lodge #24, in Brookings, SD. But yes, I agree with your observation about Masonry being a kind of neutral territory and equalizer. I have known Masons that, in public, I am adamantly opposed to... but under the roof of a lodge, get along with perfectly fine. Another thing that always struck me as interesting is that Masons do not recrui…

It's a huge barrier, but also, it sets a high bar where the only way it grows is by being great somehow. I always acknowledge to applicants that it takes a lot of courage to approach a bunch of guys like that, and also mention that we do have to get to know them a bit because it's very possible they're just nuts. I watched the clubhouse.io thing play out pretty closely because they were dealing with the exact same trade offs of "guarding the west gate." This idea of managing and growing a community online is very close to what masons have been figuring out over 300 years, and the problems are closely analagous.

Internet communities are essentially fraternal socieities and we know the good ones when we see them, but don't quite have the recipe for making ones that thrive. Open source projects are the closest thing I've seen to masonry, where you are only the quality of your work. I'd even wonder whether the BDFL model of open source projects could learn something from how to use progressive chairs and a rotating executive.

Anyway, I'm generously tolerated as a member of #581 in Toronto. It's been quite an adventure. :)

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I am a former Mason. I left the lodge due to no longer complying with their requirement to believe in a higher power (God). To be explicit: Masonry used to be segregated into "Prince Hall" masonic halls (for non-white folks) and "normal" masonic halls. This split was ended, and now Prince Hall masonic halls are full masonic lodges, and membership is recognized in both directions. In practice; every lodge I ever atten…

I believe the Prince Hall lodges were always proper Masonic lodges, they just derived their charters from Irish then English lodges, rather than from the American lodges. They were always fully legit. It took a while for American lodges to recognise that.

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Those are the fake secret societies the real ones make in order to make you think they’re all just glorified social clubs. /s

Leonard Leo, who's had more influence over the selection of Supreme Court Justices than just about anyone, belongs to a Catholic secret society. It's not silliness or paranoia to worry about groups like these.

Replying to add that just last week the Pope dissolved the leadership of this particular group (the Sovereign Military Order of Malta) and announced major reforms to it. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pope-dissolves-knights-...
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