Tim Cook's response to Android texting compatibility: 'buy your mom an iPhone'

Post by pwinnski » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 8:37 PM UTC

freedomben wrote: post #155

rchaud wrote: post #103

> Former marketing chief Phil Schiller famously said that porting iMessage to Android "would hurt us more than help us," and another former Apple exec said in an email that "iMessage amounts to serious lock-in." Thank all that is holy that innovations like email came from government and academia, and were designed for federated interoperability from day 1. I still remember all the adulation for Steve Jobs' "open lett…

Didn't Jobs originally want to create an email that only worked (on and to) Apple computers? I think that might have been in a movie about him that I watched

Post by pwinnski » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 8:43 PM UTC

chimeracoder wrote: post #87

larsnystrom wrote: post #43

I don’t get why RCS has to involve carriers. Apple could implement iMessage without involving carriers, so it should be possible to implement a messaging protocol which doesn’t rely on them (but also isn’t proprietary). By involving carriers you’re making it harder (impossible?) to create a client to be used on devices not on the cellular network. I just don’t see the point.

> By involving carriers you’re making it harder (impossible?) to create a client to be used on devices not on the cellular network. I just don’t see the point. On the contrary, RCS allows you to text over Wi-Fi, which SMS does not.

Post by pwinnski » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 8:47 PM UTC

chimeracoder wrote: post #91

windowsrookie wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iMessage sends high quality pictures and videos, try to send a video thru mms and it is unusable. iMessage also has read receipts, you can see if they are typing. iMessage works over wifi without a cellular connection (which was a big deal, but I believe carries now support this for android phones) Also iMessage automatically just works by default. You don't download an app and make an account. So for anybody who is…

> iMessage sends high quality pictures and videos, try to send a video thru mms and it is unusable. iMessage also has read receipts, you can see if they are typing. iMessage works over wifi without a cellular connection (which was a big deal, but I believe carries now support this for android phones) To add to what you're saying: RCS (which everyone except Apple uses) offers all of those things as well, and offers th…

Post by pwinnski » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 8:53 PM UTC

benjymo wrote: post #106

bananarchist wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah idk why people are still texting. This must be a North American/European thing? In Asia and Latin America nobody texts.

Only US specific I think. In the EU, everyone uses WhatsApp, Facebook messenger or some other App depending on the country.

Post by colinmhayes » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 9:07 PM UTC

pwinnski wrote: post #159

cloogshicer wrote: post #42

Thankfully, shit like this will soon be illegal in the EU when the Digital Markets Act hits. Hopefully they'll plug all the loopholes and actually enforce it. I don't understand how anyone can defend business practices like this, which are exclusively there for the purpose of platform lock-in.

To which business practice are you referring? a) developing a messaging product, then not porting it to your biggest competitor? b) declining to implement a mediocre standard at your biggest competitor's behest? The last major US carrier finally deployed RCS this year, some smaller carriers around the world still do not support it, and it notably requires carrier participation, unlike iMessage. c) ??? It isn't as if…