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Post by rr3932 »

fennecfoxy wrote: post #156
testmasterflex wrote: post #4

Makes me think of something I always wondered; did Steve know programming? He did work at Atari right? I think I’ve always attributed Steve’s huge success to 3 things; Meeting Woz, Meeting Markkula and spending a lot of time to practise articulating himself. I must admit, I envy the man. Who doesn’t. Apple is a fantastic company and keeps releasing great products.

Afaik he did know programming at a basic level, which back in those days meant that he knew enough to get something working without all of the tools, etc that we have today. But it was Woz who was the true hardware/software talent; he spent his childhood designing processors that he didn't have the money to build. He was fascinated with circuits & electronics & processors. Steve worked at Atari but got Woz in to do t…

I think Steve's most important skill was the ability to say no. But even more important, was his ability to say no and that the person he said no to listened, agreed he said no, and then stopped working on the thing and tried to do something better.

If you've ever worked in a large company you know how rare that is and how critical that is.

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Post by philistine »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #207

It has the style/tone of a snippet from Herbert's "God Emperor Of Dune." Our industry -- probably more than any other -- attracted more than its fair share of pontification, over-intellectualization and frankly, narcissism. A sense of the over-importance of everything we're doing, which is really just about using ever more complicated computing tools to make money faster and faster and faster.

It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

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Post by na85 »

dang wrote: post #208
na85 wrote: post #57

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Would you please stop posting flamewar comments and breaking the site guidelines? We ban accounts that do those things. We're not going to ban you for criticizing $celebrity, obviously, but please stop degrading the thread(s) like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: this has been a problem for quite a while, including re said $celebrity: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29164801 (Nov 2021…

Please delete my account and all its comments.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

archi42 wrote: post #128
empraptor wrote: post #119

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i've always wondered why "Sent from my xxxxx" lines are tacked on. are those intended to blame poorly composed messages and typos on bad typing experience provided by mobile devices?

Or it's just a cheap ad or for the user to show off; after all they bought an expensive iDevice and not sime cheap Android. Or a little bit of everything's. Sent from my Oh-MeGaphone SE with the official Firefox app

Sent from my SM-G101 using Tapatalk

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Post by raunometsa »

empraptor wrote: post #119
raydiatian wrote: post #91

"Sent from my iPad" fucking poetic lol

i've always wondered why "Sent from my xxxxx" lines are tacked on. are those intended to blame poorly composed messages and typos on bad typing experience provided by mobile devices?

Always hilarious to see "Sent from my Samsung Galaxy"

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Post by johndevor »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #125
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #76

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> How is your relationship with your father? Great. And yes, I'd resent him had he traded the weekends we spent making balsa-wood gliders, filming Star Trek home videos (paper maché + sugar against a black t-shirt + handycam) and taking desert hikes for face time in the office. But we are inarguably better off for Jobs--and countless others--having prioritised their professions over conventional needs. It simply seem…

> we are inarguably better off for Jobs--and countless others--having prioritised their professions over conventional needs You don’t know the alternate reality where jobs did not do that. Perhaps another company would have done similar things or even something completely different than also improved our lives.

It also ignores the Hitler-types and their negative influence on the world (Hitler was beaten brutally by his father IIRC).

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Post by scarface74 »

fennecfoxy wrote: post #156
testmasterflex wrote: post #4

Makes me think of something I always wondered; did Steve know programming? He did work at Atari right? I think I’ve always attributed Steve’s huge success to 3 things; Meeting Woz, Meeting Markkula and spending a lot of time to practise articulating himself. I must admit, I envy the man. Who doesn’t. Apple is a fantastic company and keeps releasing great products.

Afaik he did know programming at a basic level, which back in those days meant that he knew enough to get something working without all of the tools, etc that we have today. But it was Woz who was the true hardware/software talent; he spent his childhood designing processors that he didn't have the money to build. He was fascinated with circuits & electronics & processors. Steve worked at Atari but got Woz in to do t…

This is a myth that Microsoft “bailed Apple out”.

At the time of the MS deal, Apple had 4 Billion in the bank because of a loan that Amelia had already secured.

Microsoft invested $250 Million in Apple and a month later, Apple spent $100 million to buy out PowerComputing’s Mac license. It also took 4 years before Apple was profitable after the deal

The other myth is that Microsoft “agreed to port Office to the Mac” in 1997. By 1997, Word and Excel had been on the Mac since the mid 80s. MS agreed to keep supporting Office on the Mac.

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Post by vlovich123 »

na85 wrote: post #51
vlovich123 wrote: post #37

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Is that a car that would be particularly out of place in an Apple parking lot or even in any parking lot in Silicon Valley? I’ve certainly seen way more expensive cars on the lots. If I recall correctly Ives drives Aston Martins and Bentleys.

How many without license plates?

Why would you think it's Jobs' car and not a random new purchase?

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Post by scarface74 »

RajT88 wrote: post #23
testmasterflex wrote: post #4

Makes me think of something I always wondered; did Steve know programming? He did work at Atari right? I think I’ve always attributed Steve’s huge success to 3 things; Meeting Woz, Meeting Markkula and spending a lot of time to practise articulating himself. I must admit, I envy the man. Who doesn’t. Apple is a fantastic company and keeps releasing great products.

If you ask me, Woz and Jobs -- together -- both sensibilities, are the heart and soul of what makes Apple Apple. The dueling ethos live on, hopefully keeping each other in check. If we're talking about the technical and design merits of Apple devices anyways. Not the status symbol aspects.

Woz left Apple in the mid 80s. Woz’s influence on current day Apple is nil.

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Post by happyhardcore »

ninkendo wrote: post #190
happyhardcore wrote: post #183

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Pancreatic cancer actually has one of the worst survival rates; in the UK around 25% of people diagnosed survive past a year, with 5% living more than five years after diagnosis [0]. Chemo in those circumstances often has the effect of prolonging life while significantly decreasing the quality of life, and as such many people choose not to go through with it. [0] https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/pancreat…

Right but Steve had a rare version of pancreatic cancer that was totally curable and had good odds of success. But he waited too long while wasting his time with at-home remedies (an all-fruit diet, which actually made things worse), and by the time he followed his doctor’s advice it was too late: https://blogs.webmd.com/from-our-archives/20111006/steve-job... > Once it was clear that Jobs had the rare islet-cell pan…

Ah, TIL. Thanks for clearing that up!
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