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Given the complexities of the Whipple procedure, I'm not sure I would go through with it either, honestly. I'm not a doctor, but I've dealt with a looot of oncologists, and with people at the end of life from cancer. Most cancer docs would choose to go through with far less cancer treatments than their patients typically choose.
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#152It sounds like a valid atheist manifesto.
Ultra rich people don't need religion. Religion is for the people in need.
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> because I knew better. It's not because he knew better, but because he didn't like it. And frankly, who can blame him? The survival rate from pancreatic cancer is quite low, as is the median life expectancy. Moreover, he had the misfortune of getting a more aggressive variant. And the treatment is quite heavy. Nevertheless, if it was me, everything considered, I'd still try to take my chances. And I believe most pe…
Also pancreatic cancer that was likely comorbid with his dietary choices, to begin with, so it's not just about the treatment of choice.
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#154>>> From: Steve Jobs To: Steve Jobs Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010 at 11:08PM I grow little of the food I eat, and of the little I do grow I did not breed or perfect the seeds. I do not make any of my own clothing. I speak a language I did not invent or refine. I did not discover the mathematics I use. I am protected by freedoms and laws I did not conceive of or legislate, and do not enforce or adjudicate. I am mo…
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Judge people by actions not words.
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I'm honestly not sure why this was never more complained about. He ignored medical advice, that's fine I guess, his right. But he effectively stole a liver from someone and essentially wasted it. Must be nice to have FU money.
Given something like 40% of liver transplants go to people with alcohol related diseases this doesn’t bother me too much.
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#156Makes me think of something I always wondered; did Steve know programming? He did work at Atari right? I think I’ve always attributed Steve’s huge success to 3 things; Meeting Woz, Meeting Markkula and spending a lot of time to practise articulating himself. I must admit, I envy the man. Who doesn’t. Apple is a fantastic company and keeps releasing great products.
But it was Woz who was the true hardware/software talent; he spent his childhood designing processors that he didn't have the money to build. He was fascinated with circuits & electronics & processors.
Steve worked at Atari but got Woz in to do the circuit for breakout, Steve had no idea how it worked and couldn't have done it himself. When Atari paid for the work he shafted Woz by giving him a _much_ smaller amount than half of what he received.
Steve's skills mostly seem to have settled in the management/figurehead role. People say that he had excellent vision for design but realistically I think he had skills in none of the areas that he hired people to do and that his major skill was as company head, tying everything and everyone together into a cohesive unit.
He was very demanding and threw tantrums, but that's still human; however episodes like when Woz left Apple to go and invent the universal remote, he sent a prototype to Jobs and Jobs smashed it against the wall in a rage. Dude had power trip/anger issues to the max.
We can't forget that Microsoft/Bill Gates bailed Apple out at one point, too. I'd say this is likely a failing of their market at the time; Apple's market of doe eyed "it just works" fans didn't exist/wasn't large enough at that point in time. Nowadays, they don't have anything to worry about.
I, Woz; Steve Wozniak's autobiography is a great read for a bit more info into Jobs. He tells it like it was, though maybe slightly muted due to the fact that the two were still friends. The official Jobs bio is just revisionist prose.
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Damn? Not only all of that, but he also seemed to piss in your coffee this morning.
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Hitler, mao and stalin can all go jump as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure they weren't pure evil either but sometimes people deserve the label.
In what universe is Steve Jobs in the same category as dictators who killed tens of millions of people?
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#160It's a habit of the internet diaspora to label a person either good or bad; binary, with no wiggle room to model the complexity of psychology. Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey. He did some awful things and some great ones. That's that. It neither makes him a monster nor a saint. It makes him a... Human.
> Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey. Not the lightest of shades though, to many people? I'm sure there is good in Alex Jones. It is very well buried if so, but it probably does exist. I still feel justified in never wanting to interact with him and wishing the rest of the world didn't have to either. While we shouldn't be completely dogmatic and only consider someone's bad points¹, and I wouldn't say th…
When I look at the criticisms of Steve Jobs or Apple, I look at it in context of the life of people and other businesses, and it takes a lot of double standards to make the argument land one way “he’s satan” or the other “he’s god’s gift”.
It's why when I hear Steve Jobs/Apple is evil, I hold it with the same credibility as people that say Steve Jobs/Apple are the greatest. I.E. With no credibility whatsoever.