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It's a habit of the internet diaspora to label a person either good or bad; binary, with no wiggle room to model the complexity of psychology. Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey. He did some awful things and some great ones. That's that. It neither makes him a monster nor a saint. It makes him a... Human.

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Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were at the right place at the right time with the right resources. Now we have the internet and everyone is connected, it is harder because of the competition.

You think they did not have competition while IBM was the gorilla in front of them?

IBM were a mainframe company back then. Both Apple and Microsoft were already household names in the personal micro computer world before IBM entered the market.

Source: I lived through that era writing software for micro computers.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were at the right place at the right time with the right resources. Now we have the internet and everyone is connected, it is harder because of the competition.

You think they did not have competition while IBM was the gorilla in front of them?

You think it's harder fighting one gorilla or a thousand chimpanzees?

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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post #48

It's a habit of the internet diaspora to label a person either good or bad; binary, with no wiggle room to model the complexity of psychology. Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey. He did some awful things and some great ones. That's that. It neither makes him a monster nor a saint. It makes him a... Human.

Hitler, mao and stalin can all go jump as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure they weren't pure evil either but sometimes people deserve the label.

Those are extreme exceptions. Steve Jobs and the others you mentioned are not even in close leagues. That was my point, we try to judge everyone with the same yardstick and divide them in strict binary buckets. By that logic, Steve Jobs would either belong to same category as either Hitler or Gandhi.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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post #48

It's a habit of the internet diaspora to label a person either good or bad; binary, with no wiggle room to model the complexity of psychology. Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey. He did some awful things and some great ones. That's that. It neither makes him a monster nor a saint. It makes him a... Human.

Hitler, mao and stalin can all go jump as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure they weren't pure evil either but sometimes people deserve the label.

Since they’re long dead, little is lost by labeling them evil. But the closer they are to our present time, the more we must sacrifice by declaring someone an anathema. Worst of all is living people, of course.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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> hard to really envy anyone who doesn't have a solid relationship with their kids Why not tolerate a diversity of opinions on priorities? I'm personally better off for Jobs having a different preference matrix. My kids will be as well.

How is your relationship with your father?

> How is your relationship with your father?

Great. And yes, I'd resent him had he traded the weekends we spent making balsa-wood gliders, filming Star Trek home videos (paper maché + sugar against a black t-shirt + handycam) and taking desert hikes for face time in the office.

But we are inarguably better off for Jobs--and countless others--having prioritised their professions over conventional needs. It simply seems a bit ruddy to footnote that sacrifice with scoffing.

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Also extremely strange is he received a liver transplant much quicker than average, in a state far from where he lived, which later received a $40mil anonymous donation https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2015/11/12/hospital-where-jobs-rece...

I'm honestly not sure why this was never more complained about. He ignored medical advice, that's fine I guess, his right. But he effectively stole a liver from someone and essentially wasted it. Must be nice to have FU money.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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It's a habit of the internet diaspora to label a person either good or bad; binary, with no wiggle room to model the complexity of psychology. Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey. He did some awful things and some great ones. That's that. It neither makes him a monster nor a saint. It makes him a... Human.

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I'm sure I have a lower opinion of him than most but come on this is just slander

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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There's something deeply comical about this existential message ending with: > Sent from my iPad

> There's something deeply comical about this existential message ending with > Sent from my iPad He lists the shoulders he had to stand on. The iPad was a creature of his vision. If anything, it's a cheeky sign off.

It's the default sig of the iPad
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