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Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by t-writescode »

postalrat wrote: post #107
bluetidepro wrote: post #68

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For new or transferring Android users this would be amazing, but I have to say at this point I'm so deep into the Apple ecosystem that I'd be more mad if they switched to USB-C. Haha I realize the Band-Aid will most likely have to be ripped off at some point, but currently I still am fine with no USB-C.

What are you replacing besides the cables? Worst case is you add another dongle to your collection.

A dongle attached to my IR camera would make the IR camera much more annoying to use, for example. It operates directly flush against the bottom of the phone. Cables tend to wiggle around.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

mbrndtgn wrote: post #165
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #42

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The 14 has the higher binned A15 processor from the 13 Pro, which may mean that it has 6 gigs of RAM like the 13 pro rather than 4 gigs like the 13. Plus it comes in purple.

I would wait until it's actually confirmed that it has 6 GB of RAM. There is also an A15 in the iPad mini 6 which is based on the A15 in the 13 Pro, but with only 4 GB RAM. If this is the case a discounted 13 Pro could actually be the better option (also because of the 120 Hz screen).

That's a good point. According to wikipedia, there are 3 different A15 chips already.

The iPhone 13 and 13 mini have 2.93ghz high power cores and 2.02ghz low power cores.

The iPad Mini 6 has the same 2.93ghz high power cores and underclocked 1.82ghz low power cores, I believe because of the extra heat from the larger screen.

The iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max have higher clocked 3.23ghz high power cores and the same 2.02ghz low power cores as the regular iPhone 13.

The iPhone Pro's also have the extra 2GB of ram compares to the others and the iPhone 13/13 Mini are the only ones with the 4 core GPU rather than the 5 core GPU.

All we know now for sure about the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus are that they will have the 5 core GPU. We will have to wait for a hands on to know more about the specifics of the A15 they are using.

That said, I doubt that they will have the underclocked low power cores that they iPad Mini 6 has so I think the path of least resistance is for them to take the same A15 from the 13 Pro, with more RAM and overclocked high power cores, and just keep using it in the iPhone 14.

Otherwise they have to introduce a fourth A15 variant which seems like more work than using one they already are manufacturing.

I don't know shit about CPU manufacturing though so I am mostly just talking out of my ass.

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Post by skohan »

cromka wrote: post #193
gambiting wrote: post #187

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Yep. That's absolute 100% nonsense. Whenever I travel to Canada for work I just order a t-mobile(or other) sim online before flying out, pop it in on arrival = decent internet in Canada. What am I supposed to do with an eSim? Literally no one will sell you an eSim contract for just few days.

It’s pretty common for European carriers to offer pay as you go plans via eSIM and an app. Pay with your card and can add it to your phone ahead of your trip. So no, not “literally no one”. Things are changing, eSIM is increasingly common. Apple’s being Apple and just propels that change.

That’s nice but it’s still going to be 10 years or more until it’s as convenient as SIM cards everywhere.

When I crossed the border from Rwanda to Uganda, I bought a sim at a local shop, and a boy from the village cut it down to size by hand with a pair of scissors. They are not going to have ESIM anywhere soon.

ESIM requires carriers around the world to have the technical competency to make the activation and management process work smoothly and that is not something I would count on.

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Post by M3L0NM4N »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #114
bluetidepro wrote: post #68

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For new or transferring Android users this would be amazing, but I have to say at this point I'm so deep into the Apple ecosystem that I'd be more mad if they switched to USB-C. Haha I realize the Band-Aid will most likely have to be ripped off at some point, but currently I still am fine with no USB-C.

It's really weird how folks talk about e-waste and environmental factors, as if a switch to USB-C wouldn't mean three trillion Lightning cables getting yeeted into the ocean… like, I personally am quite over Lightning, but come on, folks also deeply weird and annoying that the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse use lightning for charging, that was a dumb call out of the gate

That's such a backwards way of thinking about it, e-waste could be cut down so much if people only had one charger for everything. You're overstating the magnitude of a short term side-effect, instead of focusing on the long term benefit.

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Post by skohan »

ks2048 wrote: post #79
belligeront wrote: post #40

People who travel frequently, does the lack of physical SIM card concern you? I'm not sure how widespread eSIMs across countries.

This seems like a deal breaker for me. Although maybe with this announcement, carriers will quickly adapt eSim. Apple has a page of supported carriers (and missing the country I’ve been living, Guatemala) https://support.apple.com/kb/HT209096

I don’t see how the need to provide for US tourists will drive adoption around the world

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Post by jiggawatts »

lozenge wrote: post #91
HatchedLake721 wrote: post #31

It's weird, while Google struggles to make basic Emergency Services calling to work reliably[1], Apple keeps adding life saving features from detecting falls and car crashes to ability to call Emergency Services via satellite. Just shows you how companies are different in focus, quality control and attention to detail. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375

Apple tells carriers what to do, carriers tell Google what to do.

I can attest to this. I worked at two different large telcos and they both had "calendars" that revolved around iPhone and Samsung phone releases. They had massive multi-month-long change freezes before and after each September iPhone announcement and release! I was told that this was mandated by Apple, and that they had virtually no choice in the matter.

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Post by skohan »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #200
ks2048 wrote: post #124

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That works, but consider local SIM card coverage in many places can be less than $0.50 per day - a big difference for long or frequent trips.

Sometimes getting a local SIM as a foreigner is at best a hassle (Ecuador) and at worst basically impossible to do legally (Peru). In other countries, however (such as many EU countries) it can be quite easy.

I have traveled quite extensively in the developing and developed world and in my experience it’s a rare exception not to be able to get a local sim easily. In most cases you can have one before leaving the airport.

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Post by ehsankia »

mrtksn wrote: post #93
shard wrote: post #70

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FYI car crash detection had been available since Pixel 5.

It's funny, when I try to search for Pixel 5 crash detection Google tries to autocomplete it to Pixel 5 crash loop. The thing about Apple is, and has been since its inception, that makes devices that actually work in a way people can benefit from it instead of ticking items on checklists. Mind you, Apple makes bluetooth earphones that reached business since larger than some of the most sexy and famous businesses out…

If you search "pixel crash", it completes with detection.

Again, just because Google doesn't open their presentation with a dramatized video of people sending them fan letters about how their product saved their life doesn't mean their product aren't useful or not saving lives.

Another thing Google has had for some time is early Earthquake warning, which also has saved lives, maybe that's another feature you'll see show up on iPhones in a few years, and people like you will claim Apple invented it and praise Apple for it.

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

skohan wrote: post #227
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #200

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Sometimes getting a local SIM as a foreigner is at best a hassle (Ecuador) and at worst basically impossible to do legally (Peru). In other countries, however (such as many EU countries) it can be quite easy.

I have traveled quite extensively in the developing and developed world and in my experience it’s a rare exception not to be able to get a local sim easily. In most cases you can have one before leaving the airport.

Even in the examples I gave (Ecuador and Peru) it is possible to get a SIM at the airport. But you will pay handily for that privilege due to basically skirting government regulations (the most common scenario is that you are given an under the table SIM that is legally registered to some citizen of the country). In a lot of these cases Google Fi or whatever roaming solution you are using is cheaper, and that doesn’t even count the time value of getting the local SIM card and activating it (and I have also travelled extensively and understand that this process can be a non insignificant time sink) vs just turning your phone on and having it work in whichever country you are traveling to.
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