Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by shard » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 10:46 PM UTC

smileybarry wrote: post #130

shard wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI car crash detection had been available since Pixel 5.

Only in the US and some other countries. Still not available in Israel, even though we “use” the same cars. Doesn’t look like Apple’s feature is country-restricted.

Yes, this highlights several points:

1. Different companies have different focus and strategies. I would say Google likes to experiment, but sometimes has poor follow-through. Apple often waits a few generations before committing to new technology, so they often are not innovation leaders, but they execute well.

2. Roll-outs often do not occur all at once. There might be blockers which are not immediately visible, such as regulational, financial, cultural. A regulational example would be how Apple Watch's ECG was not rolled out world-wide at first, and was spread slowly as various countries gave approval for this feature.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by mmahemoff » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 10:48 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #187

belligeront wrote: post #40

People who travel frequently, does the lack of physical SIM card concern you? I'm not sure how widespread eSIMs across countries.

Yep. That's absolute 100% nonsense. Whenever I travel to Canada for work I just order a t-mobile(or other) sim online before flying out, pop it in on arrival = decent internet in Canada. What am I supposed to do with an eSim? Literally no one will sell you an eSim contract for just few days.

I predict it will get easier following this announcement. Also there are services like Airalo with travel eSims for most countries in a single account and app.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by cromka » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 10:49 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #187

belligeront wrote: post #40

People who travel frequently, does the lack of physical SIM card concern you? I'm not sure how widespread eSIMs across countries.

Yep. That's absolute 100% nonsense. Whenever I travel to Canada for work I just order a t-mobile(or other) sim online before flying out, pop it in on arrival = decent internet in Canada. What am I supposed to do with an eSim? Literally no one will sell you an eSim contract for just few days.

It’s pretty common for European carriers to offer pay as you go plans via eSIM and an app. Pay with your card and can add it to your phone ahead of your trip.

So no, not “literally no one”. Things are changing, eSIM is increasingly common. Apple’s being Apple and just propels that change.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by jollybean » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 10:51 PM UTC

HatchedLake721 wrote: post #31

It's weird, while Google struggles to make basic Emergency Services calling to work reliably[1], Apple keeps adding life saving features from detecting falls and car crashes to ability to call Emergency Services via satellite. Just shows you how companies are different in focus, quality control and attention to detail. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375

Are they life saving features or do they just appear to be such?

I'm wary of the actual math on these things.

I think it's an honest attempt either way, but aside from a few anecdotes of 'it working as intended' I really do wonder if the math works out on this stuff i.e. cost/benefit is really there.

Without seeming too apathetic, if 2 or 3 people are able to make life saving calls due to this every year because they were 'out in the wilderness' ... then it may not be worth a massive global technical deployment. It might be more rational for people to buy/rent proper off-trail gear, or, for cars to have these things built in or something along those lines - where the cost efficiencies are much greater.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by FireBeyond » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 10:58 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #93

shard wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI car crash detection had been available since Pixel 5.

It's funny, when I try to search for Pixel 5 crash detection Google tries to autocomplete it to Pixel 5 crash loop. The thing about Apple is, and has been since its inception, that makes devices that actually work in a way people can benefit from it instead of ticking items on checklists. Mind you, Apple makes bluetooth earphones that reached business since larger than some of the most sexy and famous businesses out…

> These bluetooth earphones have just one feature that is outstanding: They work as expected, most of the time.

Better hope you don't listen to Apple Music in Lossless, though, because the newly announced Airpods... don't support it.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 10:59 PM UTC

wil421 wrote: post #110

malyk wrote: post #85

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I'm in the USA and on AT&T and use their "$10 a day international plans" when I travel. It's a little expensive, but it just works. My wife and I were in canada recently during the Rogers network issues and I called up AT&T support and then enabled an option to select the carrier for both our phones. Two reboots and we were back on a known good network. We've traveled to Italy, Serbia, France, Spain, Hungary and have…

I can confirm the same with AT&T. Used it on several trips in Italy, Serbia, and Germany. Really easy to use and I didn’t notice any slowness or apparent deprioritization from being a US carrier.

This plan is only available to AT$T postpaid customers. Prepaid customers are SOL.

I use Google Fi when I roam abroad now for the most part, especially in South America where getting and activating local SIM cards is often especially difficult.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by makeitdouble » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 10:59 PM UTC

rcarr wrote: post #16

bamboozled wrote: post #10

What are the benefits over iPhone 13 for people outside the US who can’t use the satellite feature ? Think I’ll just get a 13 on sale

The "action" camera mode (basically gimbal replacement) looked pretty good if you were a film maker/Youtuber. And "multiple eSims" might be useful if you're a traveller/digital nomad as you were previously limited to two. But yeah, other than that it did seem a bit sparse on new features this year. Hopefully next years will be a big one to make up for it?

The ”action” mode works by cropping in to negate the camera shake, so you’re left with a smaller image than with a physical gimbal. Also it’s post processing that’s probably already available in you editing apps, so it’s more about the convenience (and quality?) of having it done on the OS than something new.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by Rebelgecko » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 11:00 PM UTC

fakethenews2022 wrote: post #87

dmitrygr wrote: post #7

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Yup, same year as tesla FSD ships and can actually avoid small kids and stationary objects, I hear.

You do know that over 100K people have the beta? If people want it now in the US, they can just sign up for the beta. I know several people who did that and got it. It isn't a high bar. In heavily tested locations (West Coast), it has gotten to the point that it seems to pretty much work.

How do I sign up? Their website gives the impression it's not available until next year.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by lpasselin » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 11:01 PM UTC

Are they releasing a new iPad pro soon? Buyers guide says It's been 495 days.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 11:01 PM UTC

ks2048 wrote: post #124

malyk wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the USA and on AT&T and use their "$10 a day international plans" when I travel. It's a little expensive, but it just works. My wife and I were in canada recently during the Rogers network issues and I called up AT&T support and then enabled an option to select the carrier for both our phones. Two reboots and we were back on a known good network. We've traveled to Italy, Serbia, France, Spain, Hungary and have…

That works, but consider local SIM card coverage in many places can be less than $0.50 per day - a big difference for long or frequent trips.

Sometimes getting a local SIM as a foreigner is at best a hassle (Ecuador) and at worst basically impossible to do legally (Peru). In other countries, however (such as many EU countries) it can be quite easy.