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Re: Our attention span is being robbed

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post #79

I’m sympathetic to this argument to some extent… And yet… Just choose to read a book. Drop Facebook. Stop reading Twitter and scrolling through TikTok. I’ve come to believe it’s really that simple. Or don’t. Totally up to you. But the idea that something is being done to you is both seductive and lazy. Take responsibility, act intentionally and don’t worry about it.

"People should just take more personal responsibility when facing this societal problem" is itself a lazy response. We already know from smoking, car crashes, use of asbestos, etc, that chiding people to personally take action does very little to move the needle on anything compared to collectively-instituted safety measures.

(And, yes, I'd count this kind of stuff at least partly as a safety issue, given how endlessly training people to constantly look at their phones has affected the rate of vehicle collisions over the past decade.)

Re: Our attention span is being robbed

#92

I found https://www.calnewport.com/books/deep-work/ useful for thinking about this, and developing an awareness of where my attention goes. I use https://bulletjournal.com/ in a paper notebook. I use https://orgmode.org/ on my personal and work computers.

I just googled "bullet journal" and had to scroll through four screens of nonsense to get to a search result, the Wikipedia article on it.

Tangentially related to the topic, but give the kagi search engine a try. It feels like regaining a focused internet back.

Re: Our attention span is being robbed

#93
post #35

Thinking out loud here...is it possible to use the same patterns for good? Like, infinite scroll, bite-sized chunk UI, etc. that trick our minds into reading a full book?

Ever heard of webtoons? Its that one Korean web comic format that is just infinite scrolling until a chapter ends. I HATE that UI design so much that I really think whoever actually came up with it knows nothing about UI or UX design to begin with.

So in my opinion, I really do not think so.

Re: Our attention span is being robbed

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I found https://www.calnewport.com/books/deep-work/ useful for thinking about this, and developing an awareness of where my attention goes. I use https://bulletjournal.com/ in a paper notebook. I use https://orgmode.org/ on my personal and work computers.

I just googled "bullet journal" and had to scroll through four screens of nonsense to get to a search result, the Wikipedia article on it.

The website linked above is actually a pretty good overview: https://bulletjournal.com/>

You'll find an immense array of exceptionally artsy websites, videos, image collections, etc. Much as Gil Scott-Heron said about the revolution, the bullet journal won't be televised. It's a process that is oriented around your needs and workflows.

The key element to me is the index, and a set of notational conventions. Start with those and flavour to suit your needs. Spreads can be the next add. I'll also add my own set of reference sections (addresses, local hours of operation, informational, etc.) starting in reverse order from the back.

I've discussed this previously: Main: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27200255>

Additional: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...>

Re: Our attention span is being robbed

#97
post #79

I’m sympathetic to this argument to some extent… And yet… Just choose to read a book. Drop Facebook. Stop reading Twitter and scrolling through TikTok. I’ve come to believe it’s really that simple. Or don’t. Totally up to you. But the idea that something is being done to you is both seductive and lazy. Take responsibility, act intentionally and don’t worry about it.

I dunno, what hope do I have of resisting however many millions of dollars goes into hiring the best and the brightest to hijack my brain into endless consumption on a systemic level: all media I consume, even to consume important events in my area, and every way I connect with people when I'm not physically close to them, the hijacking has a hand in.

Re: Our attention span is being robbed

#98
post #79

I’m sympathetic to this argument to some extent… And yet… Just choose to read a book. Drop Facebook. Stop reading Twitter and scrolling through TikTok. I’ve come to believe it’s really that simple. Or don’t. Totally up to you. But the idea that something is being done to you is both seductive and lazy. Take responsibility, act intentionally and don’t worry about it.

> I’ve come to believe it’s really that simple.

It's really not though. These apps are addictive! There's a real effort required to drop them and many(most?) people don't have what it takes to kick the habit.

I installed TikTok a few months ago to see what all the fuss was about. That shit is ADDICTIVE man. Even to me, a middle aged grump, who doesn't use any social media.

I had to uninstall the app a month later as I felt I was being dragged down into a endless scrolling coma.

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