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Post by theshrike79 »

ballenf wrote: post #231
cafed00d wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of this has a super simple explanation: the shitty products always have org structures that treat software dev as shitty cost centers. It took a long time to realize that the most compelling devices have good, well maintained software. I don’t mean to say that software devs are geniuses or that these orgs have to hire the best of the best. No, they just need to create an org that prioritizes software dev. Low att…

I'd prefer a hardware switch over pure software anyway. A toggle on the headphones -- a slide switch for Device A or B. (Auto software switching would be better if it worked 99%+ of the time.)

My Airpods Max connect to 5 different devices daily.

What kind of switch would you suggest they use?

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Post by wvenable »

cafed00d wrote: post #152
hardwaregeek wrote: post #26

It's wild how much money Apple has made from Bluetooth headphones that don't suck. That's literally it. They're portable, pair easily and (somewhat) work with multiple devices. I have top of the line Bose Bluetooth headphones that still, in 2022, have issues with multiple devices. I can't count how many times I've started playing music on my iPhone only to realize that the headphones think my laptop is playing, so th…

All of this has a super simple explanation: the shitty products always have org structures that treat software dev as shitty cost centers. It took a long time to realize that the most compelling devices have good, well maintained software. I don’t mean to say that software devs are geniuses or that these orgs have to hire the best of the best. No, they just need to create an org that prioritizes software dev. Low att…

Apple's key to success is that they're the best hardware company at doing software.

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Post by pwpw »

I want to get them but reliability is a big concern. Everyone in my family has had problems with our first gen pros. Mine started developing crackling issues. During the pandemic I remember hearing that it was a known problem and could be fixed at the Apple store, but all of the stores were closed. I put off bringing them in until later. I finally got around to it this past week as the issue has grown a lot worse recently, and they said it is indeed a manufacturer defect, my AirPods are now out of warranty, and it will cost $180 to repair them. They then encouraged me to just buy a new pair given the high repair price.

That just rubs me the wrong way. They spent a good amount of time during the conference today highlighting their commitment to the environment yet are incentivizing that I purchase a new set. If these ones demonstrate stronger reliability and get USB C a year from now, I'll definitely consider them.

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Post by jonny_eh »

aqme28 wrote: post #232
8ytecoder wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen people minimize the usability of the AirPods. My dad who’s quite technology-averse, figured it out in 2 minutes while I helped him over FaceTime. The only reason he agreed to even try it was because the wired EarPods broke. Since then he just loves his AirPods.

This is Apple’s strength in general. Much easier for older folks to use.

And when it's easy enough for older folks, they're also generally better for even savvier users.

I like hacking around a Linux workstation as much as the next nerd, but when I put BT headphones in my ears to listen to a podcast, I want it to just work.

That said, every so often I need to toggle my iPhone's bluetooth switch in Settings. Even Apple's software isn't 100%.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

tarunkotia wrote: post #158

I am just curious how are people dealing with EMF radiations emitted by AirPods? I have 2 sets of AirPods and Bose QC35 but I stopped using AirPods altogether and I use QC35 using the wire. NIH study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6701402/

Until a study like that is reproduced and a plausible explanation given, it's just junk science, and should be treated as such.

It would be VERY obvious by now if nonionizing EMF was hazardous to humans at athermal levels. We've spent ~100 years using it and ~50 years paying attention.

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Post by turtlebits »

padjo wrote: post #236
joshstrange wrote: post #6

These will be an insta-buy for me. I've loved my AirPods Pro but the battery life has fallen from when I first got them. I knew that would be the case and I'm not mad about it. I'm excited for the touch control on these as well as the better ANC. Also the case having Find My support will be very nice. I'll finally get the MagSafe case as well since that came out later and I never upgraded.

This is my problem with wireless headphones. They’re cool but basically disposable when the battery degrades, which happens fast because of the usage pattern. Seems like an awful waste, I’ve gone back to wired. They will last me decades.

It's $50 for Apple to change the battery. My Airpods from 2017 still last around an hour, which is fine for when I need to get on meetings.

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Post by theshrike79 »

cube2222 wrote: post #86
hardwaregeek wrote: post #26

It's wild how much money Apple has made from Bluetooth headphones that don't suck. That's literally it. They're portable, pair easily and (somewhat) work with multiple devices. I have top of the line Bose Bluetooth headphones that still, in 2022, have issues with multiple devices. I can't count how many times I've started playing music on my iPhone only to realize that the headphones think my laptop is playing, so th…

Yeah. I remember my reason for switching to AirPods Max. My Sony xm3 kept connecting to the laptop in my backpack - which was asleep - when I was getting on my bike. I had to unpair my phone and re-pair it to force it to "own" the headphones. It was such a pita. That really was the biggest value add of the Apple headphones, and it works absolutely great. It almost (a 99.5%+ kind of almost) always connects to the devi…

I had the Bose QC35 IIs and had the exact same issue. My work laptop was in sleep mode and still they decided to keep connecting to it.

I had to either open up the mobile app, wait for it to do its stuff and force a disconnect with the laptop OR get up, walk to the laptop, open it, turn off BT and close it again.

Ordered AirPods Max and I've had pretty much zero issues since.

I can walk from my computer to the TV and Apple TV will prompt me to connect to it with one button. I can grab my phone, walk away and the headphones will move to the phone automatically. Magic.

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Post by theshrike79 »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #107
hardwaregeek wrote: post #26

It's wild how much money Apple has made from Bluetooth headphones that don't suck. That's literally it. They're portable, pair easily and (somewhat) work with multiple devices. I have top of the line Bose Bluetooth headphones that still, in 2022, have issues with multiple devices. I can't count how many times I've started playing music on my iPhone only to realize that the headphones think my laptop is playing, so th…

Personally, I absolutely hate Bluetooth headphones At this point in my life, I want fewer things to remember to charge, not more. My wired earphones will never run out of “battery” in the middle of a flight. I’m a complete grump about this stage of the headphones cycle.

I hate wires. I've broken SO many headphones just by snagging the cable on something when I try to stand up.

A good 95 percent of cases where I've dropped my phone, it's been wired to a pair of headphones and the wire snagged.

I moved to wireless about a decade ago and haven't looked back.

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Post by theshrike79 »

drewg123 wrote: post #194
hardwaregeek wrote: post #26

It's wild how much money Apple has made from Bluetooth headphones that don't suck. That's literally it. They're portable, pair easily and (somewhat) work with multiple devices. I have top of the line Bose Bluetooth headphones that still, in 2022, have issues with multiple devices. I can't count how many times I've started playing music on my iPhone only to realize that the headphones think my laptop is playing, so th…

Uninstall the Bose app? I never installed it, and my Bose QC35ii headphones work better than my airpod pros. With the airpods, they will almost always bind to the wrong device until I go into settings and force a connection. The Bose connects to both, and actually works..

The Boses are pretty nice as long as you're in the "both" range of connected devices.

Add a third, fourth or a fifth device to the mix and you need to hold yourself back to not slam the headphones to the nearest wall in frustration.

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by happyopossum »

Angostura wrote: post #186

The one thing that would have made me upgrade is the promise that I could use the Pros with my Mac on a Teams/Zoom cal and not sound like I was talking on a 1970s landline.

Wha? I and about 70% of my coworkers do this and never have any such problems
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