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Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by ballenf »

cafed00d wrote: post #152
hardwaregeek wrote: post #26

It's wild how much money Apple has made from Bluetooth headphones that don't suck. That's literally it. They're portable, pair easily and (somewhat) work with multiple devices. I have top of the line Bose Bluetooth headphones that still, in 2022, have issues with multiple devices. I can't count how many times I've started playing music on my iPhone only to realize that the headphones think my laptop is playing, so th…

All of this has a super simple explanation: the shitty products always have org structures that treat software dev as shitty cost centers. It took a long time to realize that the most compelling devices have good, well maintained software. I don’t mean to say that software devs are geniuses or that these orgs have to hire the best of the best. No, they just need to create an org that prioritizes software dev. Low att…

I'd prefer a hardware switch over pure software anyway.

A toggle on the headphones -- a slide switch for Device A or B.

(Auto software switching would be better if it worked 99%+ of the time.)

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by aqme28 »

8ytecoder wrote: post #122
dereg wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moreover, it's amazing how they've managed to make a bluetooth accessory that is intuitive to older folks. I never bothered buying my parents bluetooth devices because they'd always end up in the drawer from disuse. They use their Airpods daily and never ask me for help. A wonder.

I’ve seen people minimize the usability of the AirPods. My dad who’s quite technology-averse, figured it out in 2 minutes while I helped him over FaceTime. The only reason he agreed to even try it was because the wired EarPods broke. Since then he just loves his AirPods.

This is Apple’s strength in general. Much easier for older folks to use.

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by crazygringo »

cpsns wrote: post #150

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Millions of tons...? It's orders of magnitude less than that.

It's 56.1 grams for both buds and case. For comparison, 2 AA batteries is 46 grams.

They're tiny. In terms of e-waste, they're not even a rounding error. In terms of all devices to worry about, they're essentially last on the list. They're roughly the mass of the most popular consumer disposable batteries themselves.

(If you want to do the math, they sold ~90 million units in 2021.)

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by aqme28 »

matt-attack wrote: post #135
joshstrange wrote: post #37

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This makes me think of the "What if AirPods was a company?" [0] post from 2019. It's really wild how big that one product is alone. [0] https://jonahlupton.medium.com/what-is-airpods-was-a-company...

Would love to see an updated version of this analysis.

It looks like they still sell about 60MM per year, so not much has changed

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by padjo »

joshstrange wrote: post #6

These will be an insta-buy for me. I've loved my AirPods Pro but the battery life has fallen from when I first got them. I knew that would be the case and I'm not mad about it. I'm excited for the touch control on these as well as the better ANC. Also the case having Find My support will be very nice. I'll finally get the MagSafe case as well since that came out later and I never upgraded.

This is my problem with wireless headphones. They’re cool but basically disposable when the battery degrades, which happens fast because of the usage pattern. Seems like an awful waste, I’ve gone back to wired. They will last me decades.

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by smalley »

initplus wrote: post #229
jjcm wrote: post #203

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This might be because each were sold with the old firmware (better noise cancellation), and eventually got updated to the new firmware (better battery).

It's not firmware - the issue develops very gradually rather than all at once. This is part of what makes it such an insidious fault, like the boiling frog analogy.

I think that was an issue on the earlier airpod pros and they had/have a replacement program for that issue: https://support.apple.com/airpods-pro-service-program-sound-...

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by carlesfe »

kapsel wrote: post #12

I love my AirPod Pros, but I hate how unreliable charging in the case is. The AirPods will often think they are out of the case, when they are, and discharge themselves, while connected to my phone/laptop. Then they will re-charge, emptying the battery in the case, so I will end up with a dead pair of AirPods after a couple of days in the pocket, not using them. I guess their tolerances are too tight, hopefully somet…

Check if you have rust in the case contacts. Happened to me and I had to clean them with vinegar.

Weird, because I don't use my airpods for sport and I have no idea why the contacts would be rusted.

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by initplus »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #146
kapsel wrote: post #12

I love my AirPod Pros, but I hate how unreliable charging in the case is. The AirPods will often think they are out of the case, when they are, and discharge themselves, while connected to my phone/laptop. Then they will re-charge, emptying the battery in the case, so I will end up with a dead pair of AirPods after a couple of days in the pocket, not using them. I guess their tolerances are too tight, hopefully somet…

This issue is very bad, and I've had it on all 3 of the sets of AirPods pros I have owned. Another issue I have had on all three is that the noise cancelling degrades over time. When you get a new set, it's kind of night and day how good they are at first. After about 6 months I would say that they noticably suck compared to how they are when you first get them, and they just continue to degrade over time. My guess i…

Apple has covered these sound issues for me, every time they have apparently diagnosed that the issue matches my complaint. But I've had to make 5 warranty claims for this in just over 2 years of ownership! I have only made 8 warranty claims ever in my life, over 60% of my lifetime warranty claims have been for one airpods pro purchase!

Something is seriously up with the design of the original pros. I hope these issues have been resolved for 2nd gen.

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by scarface74 »

horsawlarway wrote: post #218
Miraste wrote: post #177

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Of course they can't do the same auto connection, but in my experience airpods work at least as well with non-apple devices as any other Bluetooth headphones.

> but in my experience airpods work at least as well with non-apple devices as any other Bluetooth headphones. Ding ding ding... Of course they do - and that's my point. They're moderately nice on apple if you're entirely on that ecosystem, and utterly the same on everything else (frankly - I think they're actually much worse than some of the nicer headphones you can get, but that's not bluetooth related at all). Goo…

You mean you can pair to one of your devices and it will automatically show up and paid to every other device you possess without having to do anything?
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