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Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by mda »

DrudgeCorporate wrote: post #97
nickpinkston wrote: post #21

I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

I apparently have been living in my own bubble. Has the pixel 6 been a bad phone in general? I haven't had a single issue with mine and I bought it day one.

I have Pixel 6, so far only minor things, otherwise great.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by n0tth3dro1ds »

scarface74 wrote: post #261
nextos wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't dislike Pixel hardware because it's the only phone supported by GrapheneOS, which makes Android tolerable. But the software is ridiculous in some regards. I bought an Pixel sometime ago, new in a box from Google, and it took two battery charges to go through a gazillion of OTA updates to get it to the latest Android. I know I could have plugged it in and flashed the latest ROM directly, but is a normal user s…

Why would Google “care” about a phone that sells only an inconsequential 2 million a quarter? If they make 4 billion a year in revenue on selling Pixel phones, that is around a quarter of how much Google reportedly pays Apple to be the default search engine on iOS devices. In other words, Apple makes more from Google in mobile than Google makes from selling Pixels.

> Why would Google “care”

Because their logo is on the device. If it’s so inconsequential as to not care about quality, then perhaps they shouldn’t bother.

They’re up against Apple. Criticize all you want, but Apple cares about customer experience and quality. Pixel is supposed to be representing their competing operating system. It should be a quality product, even if volume is low. They should accept it as a loss leader if they have to.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by n0tth3dro1ds »

doubled112 wrote: post #134
IntelMiner wrote: post #105

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It depends on your definition of problems. For Android users Apple's ... design intentions are unpalatable

As a fairly long time Android user (Android 2.2 -> 12 from various manufacturers), the iPhone 13 Mini in my pocket works really well. I honestly can't even say one is better than the other, just different, and they've mostly stolen the good ideas from each other over the years anyway.

>fairly long time Android user

>Android 2.2 -> 12

Ha, that’s pretty much the entire history, minus the HTC Dream.

Same run for me. Started with Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S1). Jumped to iPhone 12/13 mini when Google designers hired Buffalo Bill and pushed his skin-lampshade-inspired-design in Android 12 (Material You Will Put The Lotion On Its Skin).

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by scarface74 »

n0tth3dro1ds wrote: post #302
scarface74 wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would Google “care” about a phone that sells only an inconsequential 2 million a quarter? If they make 4 billion a year in revenue on selling Pixel phones, that is around a quarter of how much Google reportedly pays Apple to be the default search engine on iOS devices. In other words, Apple makes more from Google in mobile than Google makes from selling Pixels.

> Why would Google “care” Because their logo is on the device. If it’s so inconsequential as to not care about quality, then perhaps they shouldn’t bother. They’re up against Apple. Criticize all you want, but Apple cares about customer experience and quality. Pixel is supposed to be representing their competing operating system. It should be a quality product, even if volume is low. They should accept it as a loss l…

If you haven’t noticed, Google has the attention span of a crack addled flea.

This is the same company that was all in on bringing high speed internet to cities and left city streets in ruin in the process.

https://www.tellusventure.com/microtrenching-fail-drives-goo...

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by nextos »

scarface74 wrote: post #261
nextos wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't dislike Pixel hardware because it's the only phone supported by GrapheneOS, which makes Android tolerable. But the software is ridiculous in some regards. I bought an Pixel sometime ago, new in a box from Google, and it took two battery charges to go through a gazillion of OTA updates to get it to the latest Android. I know I could have plugged it in and flashed the latest ROM directly, but is a normal user s…

Why would Google “care” about a phone that sells only an inconsequential 2 million a quarter? If they make 4 billion a year in revenue on selling Pixel phones, that is around a quarter of how much Google reportedly pays Apple to be the default search engine on iOS devices. In other words, Apple makes more from Google in mobile than Google makes from selling Pixels.

Their marketshare is not so tiny anymore. It grew 380% to 3% in North America: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-market-share-3...

If the same trend is maintained, it will soon become the fourth biggest manufacturer, right after Apple, Samsung and Lenovo.

Not huge, but not serving a small niche either.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by robertwt7 »

they can be sued for this right? i'm surprised that no one has done this already. this is life and death situation from a trillion dollar company, how are they still getting away with this is just amazing.

Like where's the ticket sitting on the jira board right now? what priority is it? does the product team know about this and just ignores it? they should be held accountable

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by buildbot »

LegitShady wrote: post #142
Spooky23 wrote: post #47

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Just get an iPhone. They are for better or worse the BlackBerry of the 2020s. Samsung is the only rival in terms of hardware. Google lacks the attention span to execute. Everything else is even less baked. I’d experiment with nerdy Android distros with a tablet. I used to have a Linux smartphone (whose name escapes me, which is driving me nuts) back in like 2006/7, it was fun but not a “daily driver”.

Because I want to use a browser with Adblock and iOS won't let me, so it's ruled out from the start. Why would I settle for an expensive device that makes browsing the internet painful? Why would I limit myself to only the software apple will approve? It isn't even in the running and as long as their software policies remain as is, won't be in the running.

Network level adblocking + DNS over HTTPs solves this really well and improves overall security imo

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by scarface74 »

nextos wrote: post #305
scarface74 wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would Google “care” about a phone that sells only an inconsequential 2 million a quarter? If they make 4 billion a year in revenue on selling Pixel phones, that is around a quarter of how much Google reportedly pays Apple to be the default search engine on iOS devices. In other words, Apple makes more from Google in mobile than Google makes from selling Pixels.

Their marketshare is not so tiny anymore. It grew 380% to 3% in North America: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-market-share-3... If the same trend is maintained, it will soon become the fourth biggest manufacturer, right after Apple, Samsung and Lenovo. Not huge, but not serving a small niche either.

Sounds like every startup pitch.

“We started out at .01% of the market and we doubled in size to .02% of the market in a year doubling in size! We saw faster growth than the leader”

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by bjt2n3904 »

hmfrh wrote: post #172
bjt2n3904 wrote: post #89

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> It's unlikely that actual people weren't hurt because of these bugs. Do you want criminal prosecution for actual harm, or for potential harm? America has this habit of reaching for the biggest gun it has to solve problems, or make a statement. It always backfires.

> Do you want criminal prosecution for actual harm, or for potential harm? Do you only want DUI to be illegal if it results in an accident?

Then who do we crucify as a criminal for HeartBleed? Or Spectre? Gosh, the potential harm those could have done!

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

nh2 wrote: post #265
kelnos wrote: post #132

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The problem is that anyone who wants to use Google Pay or banking apps, or anything that requires the phone to pass SafetyNet, will not be able to use an alternative ROM. Right now that's the only thing stopping me from getting a phone with a shitty "skinned" version of Android, as I can't replace the factory OS without losing a ton of functionality I rely on.

I think that's outdated information in many regards. Most apps seem to have turned off the SafetyNet requirement; I suspect that may be due to a larger amount of Chinese Android phones that don't have it. I'm using a Play-Store-less microG LineageOS on a Google Pixel 1, and all my banking apps work (Revolut UK, German Post Bank authenticator), as well as a Swiss online health care app. I haven't found an application…

Yep, works here too - LineageOS using microG with Australian banking apps
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