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Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by scarface74 »

nextos wrote: post #159
The_Colonel wrote: post #119

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My P6P is also the worst phone I can remember, but unlike you, I also really dislike (main) camera. It oversharpens people's faces to absurd degree in anything but optimal light. Faces are discolored (often gray), wrinkles come up, hair often looks kind of greasy. (for landscapes the camera is pretty good though)

I don't dislike Pixel hardware because it's the only phone supported by GrapheneOS, which makes Android tolerable. But the software is ridiculous in some regards. I bought an Pixel sometime ago, new in a box from Google, and it took two battery charges to go through a gazillion of OTA updates to get it to the latest Android. I know I could have plugged it in and flashed the latest ROM directly, but is a normal user s…

Why would Google “care” about a phone that sells only an inconsequential 2 million a quarter? If they make 4 billion a year in revenue on selling Pixel phones, that is around a quarter of how much Google reportedly pays Apple to be the default search engine on iOS devices.

In other words, Apple makes more from Google in mobile than Google makes from selling Pixels.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by scarface74 »

LegitShady wrote: post #142
Spooky23 wrote: post #47

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Just get an iPhone. They are for better or worse the BlackBerry of the 2020s. Samsung is the only rival in terms of hardware. Google lacks the attention span to execute. Everything else is even less baked. I’d experiment with nerdy Android distros with a tablet. I used to have a Linux smartphone (whose name escapes me, which is driving me nuts) back in like 2006/7, it was fun but not a “daily driver”.

Because I want to use a browser with Adblock and iOS won't let me, so it's ruled out from the start. Why would I settle for an expensive device that makes browsing the internet painful? Why would I limit myself to only the software apple will approve? It isn't even in the running and as long as their software policies remain as is, won't be in the running.

Seeing that rule based content blocking has been built into iOS for 6 years and web extension support has been built in for two…

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by scarface74 »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #165
layer8 wrote: post #155

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There are adblocker extensions (aka “content blockers”) on iOS that work very well. This has been the case since iOS 9 IIRC, so seven years ago.

It only supports ‘Chrome Manifest v3’-style ‘simple’ blocking lists, not ‘true’ adblockers. These mostly work fine but are clearly less powerful. They also don’t work with non-Safari browsers (e.g. Firefox).

This hasn’t been true for two years Safari on iOS has supported web extensions for that long.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by scarface74 »

LegitShady wrote: post #195
mplewis wrote: post #157

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iOS supports adblockers since iOS 9 was released in 2015.

it does not support real adblockers like ublock origin, it supports 'blocking lists' which are garbage.

iOS supports web extensions and has since iOS 12/13

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Post by nh2 »

kelnos wrote: post #132
er888kh wrote: post #78

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Just look for a phone on which you can easily install a stable custom ROM. I previously had a Samsung device and installed Lineage OS and was happy-ish. It was clean and free of bloatware, fast, and had a good battery life. The downside was that it wasn't stable (probably never got an uptime above 48h) and the major updates were too buggy and too late. I recently bought a Xiaomi device. The moment you turn it on you…

The problem is that anyone who wants to use Google Pay or banking apps, or anything that requires the phone to pass SafetyNet, will not be able to use an alternative ROM. Right now that's the only thing stopping me from getting a phone with a shitty "skinned" version of Android, as I can't replace the factory OS without losing a ton of functionality I rely on.

I think that's outdated information in many regards. Most apps seem to have turned off the SafetyNet requirement; I suspect that may be due to a larger amount of Chinese Android phones that don't have it.

I'm using a Play-Store-less microG LineageOS on a Google Pixel 1, and all my banking apps work (Revolut UK, German Post Bank authenticator), as well as a Swiss online health care app.

I haven't found an application yet that I couldn't use on LineageOS due to lack of SafetyNet.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by scarface74 »

vorpalhex wrote: post #115
endisneigh wrote: post #72

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I'm not sure what you're talking about? iOS has implemented interfaces to use things like Google Drive, One Drive, Dropbox, etc, baked into the file system.

1. There is no filesystem (exposed), there are per-app sandboxes with the ability to move files from another sandbox 2. It only allows single file actions, no sync/offline cache/etc. Most apps don't meaningfully work well with this - there is no "sync these ten comics to this device at all times" Most apps still only use their local file sandbox.

Any application that saves files using the standard file selector allows you to choose any installed storage solution.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #209
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #203

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You realize that all electronic payments are used to profile you.

Even if that’s true, why would you add another party (i.e. Google) to that chain?

While pervasive tracking is insidious, Google is the least problematic actor since they don't sell their data.

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Post by ratg13 »

keewee7 wrote: post #23

High-end Samsung phones are the only reason I'm still on Android. Google (Pixel), One Plus, Huawei, and most other Android phone designers/manufacturers have not been able to reach Samsung/Apple quality for the past five or more years.

Same, but I'm so done with the uninstallable facebook apps.

When I got my galaxy 10 I went in and disabled all the facebook apps since you can't uninstall them. I went an checked the status a year later, and the original ones were still disabled, but they had pushed additional facebook apps to me behind the scenes without me knowing.

I don't get why samsung needs facebook money this badly to invade their customer's privacy.

Now it's time to upgrade and I'm reluctant to buy Samsung, Pixel seems to be garbage .. not sure where to turn next.

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Post by mschild »

dekerta wrote: post #53
dessant wrote: post #40

The repeated negligence around the handling of Android bugs related to emergency calls should result in criminal prosecution. It's unlikely that actual people weren't hurt because of these bugs. They have known about these issues for years, and they continue to give them the importance of an unresponsive button in Gmail settings. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29492884 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comme…

I got a Pixel6 in July. Aside from the camera, it is by far the worst phone I've ever owned. I probably experience at least 4 or 5 major crashes every day where the phone becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. Up until now, I've been able to live with the bugs as a moderate inconvenience, but now that I know I could potentially die because of Google's complete lack of QA, I'm going to ditch the phone right away. I'l…

I would recommend trying GrapheneOS. Easy to install on Pixels and have heard great things. The OS focus is on Privacy and Security which can come with some cutbacks but still might be worth it to you
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