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Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by djbusby »

libria wrote: post #81
bjt2n3904 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> criminal prosecution Steady now. I don't think you want that.

I don't know the specific law, but FCC does expect a phone to be able to reach 911 (e.g., 911 Act). There must already be a penalizing process or fines in place for manufacturers who fail to meet basic standards. I'm not sure what criminal liability would look like, though. Who do we put in jail? The dev? QA? People who CR'd the bug? The TPM who proposed the feature? The manager who allocated time? The skip who initi…

Fine the company $1 per unit sold per day until the 911 feature is fixed.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by mikotodomo »

whatever1 wrote: post #5

Interesting, this is why I switched from android to apple ~ 5 years ago. I was expecting a very important phone call for the outcome of the surgery of a person very close to me. The smartphone, the Samsung galaxy S7 edge, finally rang, and I was trying to answer the the call, but no, android was doing something more important in the background, the whole UI was frozen and the phone call banner was not responding to t…

So much this. The idea of being unable to call 911 when you need it is absolutely horrifying. I'd argue that one of the main reasons for owning a phone is to protect you. I think Android's entire company needs to be shut down and taken over.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by wiseowise »

whimsicalism wrote: post #196
wiseowise wrote: post #164

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Literally every issue listed seems like a software issue to me.

Excited for the "friction" firmware update!

Okay, there's one hardware issue out of seven, I stand corrected.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by to11mtm »

dessant wrote: post #40

The repeated negligence around the handling of Android bugs related to emergency calls should result in criminal prosecution. It's unlikely that actual people weren't hurt because of these bugs. They have known about these issues for years, and they continue to give them the importance of an unresponsive button in Gmail settings. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29492884 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comme…

Oh they know. I've had call issues (that included ability to make emergency calls) since the G1 days. Oftentimes it is a diceroll between the firmware of the MFG and the version of android.

One of the things I miss most about WinPho is the reliability of their phone/sms stack (well, except for near the end of WP10, things got weird)

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Post by victornomad »

RowanH wrote: post #189
corndoge wrote: post #85

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All phones have these problems. Every phone has glaring problems you have to live with or work around.

I've now got quite a few phones on my desk (6 right now) plus all the other historical ones. It's surprising to see the differences, quirks, and little gems. My main phone has now become an 13 Pro Max, it's solid, reliable and smooth (but my main reason was the camera/video quality). While features might be hidden via gestures I don't think I've ever seen a problem or bug with anything - certainly nothing that is rep…

As a person that has been dealing with Android programming since version 1.6 I have to say that things got very stable since version 4.4 Kitkat. That's 9 years ago...

The ecosystem has improved, and added a bunch of new optional stuff, a new language, a new way of making UIs, etc. Retrocompatibility is still very good.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by to11mtm »

nextos wrote: post #159
The_Colonel wrote: post #119

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My P6P is also the worst phone I can remember, but unlike you, I also really dislike (main) camera. It oversharpens people's faces to absurd degree in anything but optimal light. Faces are discolored (often gray), wrinkles come up, hair often looks kind of greasy. (for landscapes the camera is pretty good though)

I don't dislike Pixel hardware because it's the only phone supported by GrapheneOS, which makes Android tolerable. But the software is ridiculous in some regards. I bought an Pixel sometime ago, new in a box from Google, and it took two battery charges to go through a gazillion of OTA updates to get it to the latest Android. I know I could have plugged it in and flashed the latest ROM directly, but is a normal user s…

> It seems that nobody cares at Google.

My dystopian response is that they know if you're going 'all in' on their branded phone you are either geeky enough to deal with it, or drank too much kool-aid to care.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by butterNaN »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #27
nickpinkston wrote: post #21

I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

So where do we go from here? I have a Samsung Galaxy S9 at the moment, but Samsung's typo-filled changelogs don't exactly inspire confidence. It has also been bugging me to accept the new Samsung Account terms, which I don't want to do. Chinese brands (Huawei, Xiaomi, Motorola, etc.) don't inspire confidence for me either. Apple had the CSAM scanning controversy. I have an iPad, but a bunch of features I didn't want…

Consider installing /e/ os on your galaxy. https://e.foundation/e-os/

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by kieselguhr_kid »

geodel wrote: post #194
dessant wrote: post #40

The repeated negligence around the handling of Android bugs related to emergency calls should result in criminal prosecution. It's unlikely that actual people weren't hurt because of these bugs. They have known about these issues for years, and they continue to give them the importance of an unresponsive button in Gmail settings. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29492884 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comme…

Yesterday I was reading it is because Google pay such a low salary. If they increase it to like 3x-4x of current, all bugs will disappear on their own.

I know this is some kind of sarcasm but I'm not sure what kind of sarcasm it is.

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Post by rob74 »

soulofmischief wrote: post #199
dekerta wrote: post #53

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I got a Pixel6 in July. Aside from the camera, it is by far the worst phone I've ever owned. I probably experience at least 4 or 5 major crashes every day where the phone becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. Up until now, I've been able to live with the bugs as a moderate inconvenience, but now that I know I could potentially die because of Google's complete lack of QA, I'm going to ditch the phone right away. I'l…

Welcome to the club. The 3a was the best phone I ever owned. Then it broke (my fault) and after going through 3 bunk replacements in a row, I realized that Google literally does zero QA and stopped trying.

Maybe the Pixel 3 was better, but I still have a Pixel 2 XL which came with a USB-C-to-headphone adapter which simply does not work, and also it's very picky about which USB ports it will connect to - it seems to prefer USB-C. Once you get over these issues though, it's an Ok phone...
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