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Yes it is. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apart...
Israeli rules say West Bank visitors must declare love interest
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#122An illegal Apartheid occupation, what do you expect. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apart...
It's easy to ask Palestinians and Gazans and Israelis to fight and die from the comfort of our western basements, but how many of you have the courage to point to a peace deal and publicly advocate that the sides sign it to end the conflict?
How many comments and articles on social media (including HN) push people to take sides instead? Seldom to I see articles or comments even mention the last viable peace deal that was on the table.
It's the worst kind of journalism, and it attracts the worst kind of online participants.
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#123Not that what the rules actually say matters to anyone here, but you can read the text for yourself (the article even links to them): "A foreigner married to a resident of the Area, or forming a couple with one, must proceed to make arrangements according to Part 4 of this procedure before arriving at the Area. If the relationship starts after the foreigner arrived at the Area, then the authorized COGAT official must…
> In short, if you become engaged, married, or cohabiting, then yes you may not qualify anymore for the visa you entered under (and need a different permit), and have to report that within 30 days. Who gives Israel the rights to issue such visas in the first place? US made tanks and missiles? Why should Palestinians apply Israeli visas to enter and stay in Palestinian land?
...but to answer your more general question: Since the most recent Arab invasion of Israel, Israel controls all border crossings into the Palestinian territories - even though the Palestinian territories are self-governed.
If Gaza and/or the West Bank were to sign a peace deal with Israel, then this would end.
So I suppose the question is - Why aren't Gaza and the West Bank signing a peace agreement?
The real answer is different for both of those entities. For Gaza, it's simple. Gaza is entirely run by Hamas, an Iranian funded terrorist group. And Iran has explicitly instructed them to never sign a peace deal with Israel. There aren't even any settlements in Gaza - nor Israeli military there. Moreover, the border is well established.
The West Bank is far more complicated given settlements, division of Jerusalem, and water rights - but a deal was very nearly achieved in the last negotiations (all points were settled) but Arafat walked away from deal because he didn't want Israel to hold any portion of Jerusalem at all - even the portions inhabited entirely by Jews.
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Because they lost three wars and three chances of peace. Vae Victis. They could have settled for much more generous conditions in 1948 ot 1967
Guess the israelis are doing their darnest to get them to try a fourth time.
No one is going to invade Israel.
Palestinians should sign the last peace deal. They aren't going to get better terms.
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I mean the answer is pretty clear even for Europe. With ISIS committing acts of terror in Europe, it helps to have a country in the Middle East as an ally.
so europe, with all its tall talks of freedoms and human rights is openly supporting an apartheid state just because it wants an "ally" in a region that they cannot police themselves so they want constant infighting there rather than back home..... nice
Countries that lives in a fantasy world where you can cut off contact with every country that doesn’t meet your standards find themselves isolated pretty quickly.
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> European invaders Most of Israeli Jews are of middle eastern origin. Their ancestors have never been to Europe, and they have been forced to flee their homes and go to Israel because of persecution by Muslim Arabs across the middle east — the same genocidal racism that stands behind current conflict. If you're so misinformed about the region that you think israelis are “European”, please refrain from commenting on…
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#128I live in israel, I am jewish practicing and a lot of my friends (outside of work, we are running togethere) are muslim, and most people don't care about politics, just saying it's not that black and white....
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Most countries recognise Palestine as its own state and people. I know Israelis don’t, but it doesn’t mean you are right.
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Palestine is occupied Israeli land and Israel is building settlements there. Israel only keeps Palestine de jure 'external' due to international pressure, with the extra advantage of not having to give Palestians the same rights as Israelis (i.e. Apartheid). Claiming it is not apartheid based on some territorial technicality is disingenious. When Palestine gets full sovereign statehood maybe then we can watch evangel…
Israel has offered Palestinians a state multiple times, as well as offering to territory to Jordan (which I think is probably the best outcome).