Ah. Didn’t know IMDB was owned by Amazon. Put’s all ratings on Prime in a different perspective.
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IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
#712Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love You mean three books, right? The difference here is that Aragorn was written by Tolkien, this show wasn't and has completely betrayed the original material. Race or gender swaps are not a big issue, but they become one if the purpose is…
I mean ... she's a fairy, not a human .. what does her skin have to do with the time period or place in which she appeared? And there's literally zero reason to insist that Collodi's description is the only way a fairy character can be portrayed in a staged version of his book. The real problem is getting upset over the skin color of the actors and actresses playing fairies (or stormtroopers or elves or angels or for…
Exactly. People will follow “fairy magic” hook line and sinker and to have a diverse cast of elves (who are still by the way still very pretty except that guy who plays elrond) makes them doubt the quality. I think there's a lot of hidden affront at diversity here. All I care about for this series is 1) is it entertaining, 2) are the actors good? 3) give me more dragons. I think it's off to a mediocre start, but I have hopes it will get better. It's certainly not the steaming pile that Reddit and HN are making it out to be, and it's not Better Call Saul level either.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
#713Not sure if IMDb has a history of deleting negative user reviews made in good faith, but worth noting that IMDb and The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (TV series) are both owned by Amazon.
I'd like to see what some of these awesome deleted reviews talk about. Probably "wokism" which is on weak ground from the start. Probably also just made accounts and not ones with a history of giving quality reviews.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
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>Another example is the new Disney's Pinocchio, were the Blue Fairy is portrait by a black woman. The problem is not that she is black of course. but that the original story is set in Italy, Tuscany, mid 1800, were no black woman was ever seen It’s quite clear that that is YOUR problem. It’s funny when people like yourself claim “I’m not X” while then clear laying the case. And for the récord, i hope you open up a ge…
> It’s quite clear that that is YOUR problem. It’s funny when people like yourself claim “I’m not X” while then clear laying the case. if you don't see a problem in changing someone else's literature and culture (I am Italian and have read Pinocchio since I was a kid) than you probably don't know what respect for different cultures is. I would never think of a movie were Kunta Kinte is Dutch and is portrait by Chris…
Septimius Severus was not black. He may had darker skin, but was not sub Saharan black.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
#715When websites remove reviews for "review bombing", I have never ever seen them also remove the "reverse review bombing", basically the people that give it an undeserved 10 to "make up" for the review bombing or whatever. And that is clearly happening here https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7631058/ratings
Sometimes IMDB gets 10/10 reviews before the films are even aired anywhere on Earth. It's magical.
and 1/10 too.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
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I didn't say based IN I said based ON. Those are similar sounding but completely different. The former implies it's actually based in the same country and lands as Europe. Whereas the later implies it's merely inspired by to some degree.
Tolkien borrowed quite heavily from Scandinavian mythology, especially the epic Väinämöinen from Finnish mythology, and seems to have been obsessed with Odin from Norse mythology. Is that what you mean? Because claiming he based his fictional myths and his fantasy fiction on European myths and history is so vague and technically inaccurate that is must be false. Though Italy is firmly in Europe, describing lasagna as…
If you don't believe Italy, or the Nordic countries are European I will not be able to convince you. Our world view is simply too different to come to an understanding.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
#717I think people with legitimate criticisms are starting to get really tired being called a racist or a misogynist. 99% of the reviews aren't about wokeness at all. They're about the writing, the pacing and the how unbelievably dull the show is.
The minute you say "the elves weren't dark!" I'm probably going to start doubting your opinion on the matter almost immediately, as whether they were pale as a sheet or black as coal has nothing to do with what they represent.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
#718All crowd-sourced online aggregation is bogus. Every single form of it has someone placing their finger on the scale one way or the other. If it isn't a familial corporation it's for-hire bot farms, perhaps even hired by your competition. Or maybe it's the aggregator themselves, running a digital protection racket. Instead, go read a full review written by a trusted curator.
>Instead, go read a full review written by a trusted curator. That's the point, trusted curators have been drifting further and further from what the majority of people find good for a long time. What critics find good and what the target audience finds good are not the same: https://youtu.be/eFRWDZBH8Dc?t=745
I think the parent's comment was saying to find reviewers whose tastes align with your own, then trust their reviews for new content. This requires 1) that the media they publish through prints the name of the author; 2) when you read a review, you pay attention to who is writing it; and 3) a period of time to establish a relationship with a reviewer and build a sense of how much your tastes align.
I find the easiest way to do that is to generally read reviews, and when you go see the thing/buy the thing that got reviewed, think back to which reviewers closest aligned to your reaction, then read more of them, and eventually you'll find a small group of reviewers who you trust.
I admit that I haven't found "my" TV reviewer yet, since it seems the world of TV critics is afraid to offer any significant criticism of the shows they're reviewing. I'm not sure if that's an industry thing or if I've just been looking in the wrong places.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
#719Amazon, which owns IMBD, is pushing this thing hard. I have turned off every single setting in Alexa related to hunches, promotions, suggestions, etc. I loathe when I ask for the weather and she concludes with “…by the way, I can also…” But I still got a reminder that this show was available when I asked what time it was the other day.
I mean that's kind of par for the course for having an Amazon spy center in your home...
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
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> When you say European, except for the fact that Tolkien wrote the story, what part of the show thus far has given you an explicit European feel? "Middle Earth" was an old phrase used to refer to Western Europe in several Scandinavian languages. Tolkien, being a linguist, would have known this and chosen that turn of phrase deliberately.
You are missing my argument completely. What I'm saying is that yes, Tolkien may have envisioned Middle Earth as proto-European fantasy, but when you're arguing for "historical accuracy", you can't pick and choose. You're arguing about skin color as if a) no people of color lived in Europe at the time, and b) you're completely avoiding touching on the origin of Tolkien's evil races and nations, and in particular orcs…
> You're arguing about skin color as if a) no people of color lived in Europe at the time, and b) you're completely avoiding touching on the origin of Tolkien's evil races and nations, and in particular orcs. If hobbits, men, and elves need to be white, then orcs necessarily need to be black and brown people, no?
The problem with line of thought is that Lossarnach which mustered to Minas Tirith during the seige of Gondor were described as swarthy (i.e. dark skinned).
Also, the Easterlings were poignantly humanized by Sam.
"It was Sam's first view of a battle of Men against Men, and he did not like it much. He was glad that he could not see the dead face. He wondered what the man's name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would not really rather have stayed there in peace all in a flash of thought which was quickly driven from his mind."
All of this is a far cry from the stark dark people bad racism you've posted about a couple of times now.
Finally, the orcs also had slanted eyes, did Tolkien also hate Asians? Are Orcs supposed to be African or Asian? Pegging orcs as "dark people" simply doesn't fit as orcs don't closely match any ethnic group in particular. Orcs aren't even a single race for that matter. In any case, dark skinned=bad sounds a lot like allegory, which Tolkien finds distasteful. It is my theory that due to the time we all live in, you are (subconsciously most likely) hammering a square racism peg in a round hold.