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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by WastingMyTime89 »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #437
galangalalgol wrote: post #374

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Is that really true? If I saw any fantasy or sci-fi series that didn't derive from a book or comic series I'd take off work to binge it. I'm so tired of regurgitation. A known writer's name attached would me me run rather than walk to the remote.

It's really true. How often do you hear about Upload, an ongoing non-adaptation scifi series run by the guy who produced The Office and Parks and Rec? Or The Orville, a non-adaptation space exploration show from the Family Guy guy?

Upload got good numbers. Stranger Things was extremely successful. I remember a period when everyone was talking about Dark a few years ago. Original stories can be extremely well received with the right marketing push.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by [deleted] »

samatman wrote: post #415
jeromegv wrote: post #369

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The reality is that at least as a North American, nobody even knows it is an Italian story. We all know Pinocchio from our childhood. Nobody knows it’s Italian. So watching a Disney movie, I’m not watching an Italian movie featuring an Italian story, just watching Disney. I’m watching a common fable. And in that case, I really don’t see why everyone HAS to be white. Not asking to change the original Italian book here…

Saying you didn't know that Pinocchio (!!) was set in Italy (!!!) is like saying you didn't know the first half of the Little Mermaid was set underwater.

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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by auggierose »

throw0101c wrote: post #475
matwood wrote: post #311

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For me, I like the political intrigue. It's also a reminder that the quest for power is never ending, and even when one wins, it's never lasting. But, to your point, it's not that dissimilar from other quest for power dramas. I told a friend the new GoT is a bit like Succession with dragons. The quest for power is part of the human condition, which is why I think so many enjoy the stories in whatever form they are to…

> For me, I like the political intrigue. Have you watched The Expanse ? If you like faction-y stuff, it's worth checking out.

Yep, can recommend The Expanse as well. I find the end somewhat unsatisfying though. There is potential for a sequel, 500 years later or so.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by Rant423 »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #484
Rant423 wrote: post #315

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That's not how it works. Yes, RT scores are binary, but that's not the same as saying that "rotten" means 1/10 and "fresh" means 10/10.

Yeah, that’s not the same. That sounds worse to me, so the question stands, how is it better?

Please note that I'm talking about critics' ratings: RT has them and IMDB doesn't.

So it's better for me, as I value known critics more than random people.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by [deleted] »

webmobdev wrote: post #481
towaway15463 wrote: post #343

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1. Older audiences have more money and spend more of it. 2. There’s only 68 million Gen Z compared to 72 million Millenials. 3. You keep a franchise alive and healthy by protecting the core IP and making the fans happy not by alienating them and making terrible renditions of the story. If you do that then all you have left is a name that is increasingly associated with bad writing and acting and eventually it becomes…

> Older audiences have more money and spend more of it. And one way to make them spend that money is to target their kids, which is much more easier to do so ...

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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by LawTalkingGuy »

spywaregorilla wrote: post #146
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #133

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Interesting. I did not perceive Zootopia as progressive ( tbh, I don't remember much of it except for the DMV skit ). Could you elaborate on that interpretation?

The entire plot of the movie is about predator animals going savage and the rabbit cop and fox conman working together to understand why. Act 1 is rabbit cop overcoming assumptions that she cannot be a cop because she is a rabbit. Act 2 is they catch a savage predator and then, when prompted on the news, rabbit cop suggests it may be due to predators having savage behaviors "in their genetics" Act 3 is realizing that…

I think it was a warranted bias. Obviously in the show's past there was a time when predators predated, or they wouldn't have brought it up.

That makes it more noble. The Rabbit is not just getting over a silly uninformed prejudice, but is willing to intellectually set aside the ongoing murder of her ancestors to fully analyze a case. "Sure, they are naturally violent and we all know that, but is that enough to account for ..." She's a real investigator who refuses to be distracted.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by Rant423 »

vagrantJin wrote: post #539
Rant423 wrote: post #346

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In an ideal world, where everyone votes sincerely (and using an agreed-on scale), sure. But that's not the real world: here people are declaring a whole season of a show either a 10 or 1, after _maybe_ seeing 25% of it. In other words, this data is too noisy and so not trustworthy.

I dont know what the 'ideal world' talk is about, what I do know is that the audience votes with something valuable and real, not something vague and nebulous like expertise. Fans have nothing to gain, not prestige, not fame, not even a fattening bank account. All they ask for is to be entertained. Peter Jackson and hos team may be to blame for leaving such a high bar to clear, but censorship will never be the answer…

I'm not justifying censorship.

I am simply ignoring users ratings as I deem them unhelpful.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by Rant423 »

rdedev wrote: post #464
Rant423 wrote: post #210

I choose to ignore user reviews/ratings altogether. On IMDB right now 60% of the ratings (not reviews) are either 1 or 10 [1], and that's completely ridicolous. I much prefer the critics' scores - and right now they're 84% on RT [2] and 71 on Metacritics [3]. Which are reasonable numbers. [1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7631058/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_rt [2] https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_..…

I don't completely disregard the user reviews. It helps me get a feel of the type of movie or series when comparing it to critics review. The Gray Man has low critics review but high user reviews on rotten tomatoes. So i expected it to be something i can enjoy without too much of an investment. And it did. Helped me get through my 14 hr flight

What do you expect when this ratio is reversed (high critics review but low user reviews)?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by stevievee »

If only these studios appreciated that they could compound the value of the IP by rallying the existing fans (ie. "early adopters") instead of trying to jump straight to the "majority" audience. It is just corporate greed mixed with hubris. The Foundation tv show is another example of this short-sighted approach.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by didibus »

wizofaus wrote: post #456
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #224

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> she's a fairy, not a human .. what does her skin have to do with the time period or place in which she appeared? I mean, why can't we have a viking Black Panther and put Wakanda near Iceland? > The real problem is getting upset over the skin color of the actors and actresses playing fairies No one is upset for that, I, as Italian, am upset that some writer thinks that Collodi's story needed to be changed in ways th…

Can't reply to the post below but where you say "I want to see black people stories, not just black people participating in white people stories where they are not originally mentioned." - I don't personally care if a movie reinterpretation casts a bald black actor (of either sex) for a character that's orginally a blue-haired pale-skinned fairy, but I definitely agree with this statement. And I wouldn't personally h…

> I want to see black people stories, not just black people participating in white people stories where they are not originally mentioned

Isn't part of the problem that there are no such stories for those who were stolen from their culture and made to work by force, kept uneducated on purpose, and weren't given the opportunity to build stories of their own?

A lot of Afro American don't speak their original language anymore, they don't know the folklore, the religions, the customs, might not even know where they came from, it's all been forgotten and erased, they're raised American now.

I feel this is where inclusivity matters, if you're raised American, but aren't, and all movies and stories exclude you, it just reminds you that you're still treated differently.

I'm definitely not very educated on Afro American stories, so maybe I'm wrong here, I just thought this is possible, it can be easy for colonized nations and enslaved people to lose their culture as they are forcefully assimilated, so decades later of this it's hard for them to make movies about what maybe is forgotten even to them.

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