IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

Post by joemazerino » Sat, Sep 03, 2022, 2:16 PM UTC

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MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #105

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Name a „woke“ movie with likable characters. One. Its a contradiction in terms - you cannot be a spiritual scold or schoolmarm and mold a set of likable characters from this essence.

“Woke” or accused of being so? There are plenty of movies out there that have been criticised for being too ”liberal leaning”. “Woke” is a rather recent term. Django unchained and Black Panther are two relatively recent movies accused of being “woke”. Both were resounding successes.

Post by Ygg2 » Sat, Sep 03, 2022, 2:19 PM UTC

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Don't you think that 2 episodes is a bit too little to judge the entire series like that? The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. Galadriel was not exactly likeable when she participated in the first kinslaying, or when she ran away from the war of wrath.

How faithful was that storyline to the Tolkein lore? Did he really write a book where a commander driven literally insane by zeal is vindicated, saves the lives of the men in her company like a mary sue, only to be mutinied and sprung by her king for being right? It makes everyone look repulsive. The only win scenario in that situation is if they'd all just sat on their hands and done nothing.

Post by wizofaus » Sat, Sep 03, 2022, 2:21 PM UTC

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> It’s quite clear that that is YOUR problem. It’s funny when people like yourself claim “I’m not X” while then clear laying the case. if you don't see a problem in changing someone else's literature and culture (I am Italian and have read Pinocchio since I was a kid) than you probably don't know what respect for different cultures is. I would never think of a movie were Kunta Kinte is Dutch and is portrait by Chris…

>But in the small village in Tuscany of 1800 depicted in Pinocchio there were no black people, I can assure you. Probably not many English speakers either.

Post by zdragnar » Sat, Sep 03, 2022, 2:22 PM UTC

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> The fairy is pale white not because she is white, but because she's pure. Curious equivocation there.

Unfortunately that's really how Tolkien's mythology tends to work. White skin is associated with purity, darker skin with corruption and evil (or at least, between the two, "civilized" and "uncivilized".) It's a trope that's carried on into sci-fi (particularly Star Trek, where the more animalistic or violent races also tend to be darker - see the Klingons who get portrayed as darker-skinned and more aggressive with…

Post by milesskorpen » Sat, Sep 03, 2022, 2:23 PM UTC

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #167

farleykr wrote: post #61

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

> Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love You mean three books, right? The difference here is that Aragorn was written by Tolkien, this show wasn't and has completely betrayed the original material. Race or gender swaps are not a big issue, but they become one if the purpose is…