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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I think people with legitimate criticisms are starting to get really tired being called a racist or a misogynist. 99% of the reviews aren't about wokeness at all. They're about the writing, the pacing and the how unbelievably dull the show is.

People will always ignore flaws if it’s entertaining. The fact LOTR was boring and uneventful makes the other flaws more glaring.

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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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> she's a fairy, not a human .. what does her skin have to do with the time period or place in which she appeared? I mean, why can't we have a viking Black Panther and put Wakanda near Iceland? > The real problem is getting upset over the skin color of the actors and actresses playing fairies No one is upset for that, I, as Italian, am upset that some writer thinks that Collodi's story needed to be changed in ways th…

> The pale white skin is a well known proxy for ethereal/angelic beings In European and European derived culture...

Of course they did.

But Disney is not making culture, they are making entertainment for making money.

Tolkien is culture, Amazon's rings of power is not.

EDIT: sorry, misread your comment, no, not only in European cultures, it's consistent across the cultures throughout history.

White is the light, first men loved light and hated dark, in darkness lure grave dangers.

For example in African mythologies fairies are white too, pearl white to be precise.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumboes

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Does that translate to 1 out of 10 stars, though, or are the 1 stars with these generic reviews still just a form of brigading? Edit: lol, sorry for questioning the bad-faith 1-star reviews, keep down voting

Isn't that just fair grade inflation. Either 5 or 1 star so either 10 or 1 out of 10.

What?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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> she's a fairy, not a human .. what does her skin have to do with the time period or place in which she appeared? I mean, why can't we have a viking Black Panther and put Wakanda near Iceland? > The real problem is getting upset over the skin color of the actors and actresses playing fairies No one is upset for that, I, as Italian, am upset that some writer thinks that Collodi's story needed to be changed in ways th…

> The pale white skin is a well known proxy for ethereal/angelic beings In European and European derived culture...

Yes. An Italian was talking about an Italian story. They're Europeans.

What did you intend this statement to contribute?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Isn't it the case that race is acceptably mutable if it isn't germain to the story and that making all audiences feel more accepted and therefore happier is a laudable goal. Nothing woke about greater non white representation. Plenty snowflake about not wanting this.

No. That's the lie being told these days and repeatedly blowing up on faces though

Blowing up in what way?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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> Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love You mean three books, right? The difference here is that Aragorn was written by Tolkien, this show wasn't and has completely betrayed the original material. Race or gender swaps are not a big issue, but they become one if the purpose is…

>Another example is the new Disney's Pinocchio, were the Blue Fairy is portrait by a black woman. The problem is not that she is black of course. but that the original story is set in Italy, Tuscany, mid 1800, were no black woman was ever seen It’s quite clear that that is YOUR problem. It’s funny when people like yourself claim “I’m not X” while then clear laying the case. And for the récord, i hope you open up a ge…

Racism certainly plays a big part in the frequency of such complaints, but it nonetheless raises some important questions.

Ultimately, nobody really, genuinely holds the opinion that an actor can be of any appearance for any role. There will always be exceptions that will break their immersion, because unlike with theatre there is the expectation that the movie is WYSIWYG.

To give an extreme example, would you be completely undisturbed if the main character in 12 years a Slave was portrayed by John Malkovich? Or if a Jewish camp inmate in Schindler's list was portrayed as a black person? I don't think either example would sit well with the vast majority of people, no matter how racist or not racist they might be.

That's why pointing out that black people did exist in Italy is correct but beaide the point. The real debate is around the acceptability of certain expectations, and what determines the criteria for this acceptability.

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While I agree with the sentiment, this isn’t “Bezos pushing it”. Look at any big movie franchise — this is just standard pre release merchandizing tie ins. You want to make a release like this “a cultural event”. The latest Jurassic Park was everywhere. They even partnered with Walmart and decorated the outside of their buildings with giant posters of dinosaurs. I’m also remembering one of the Pirates of the Caribbea…

Jurassic Park never sent a push notification to my phone

They would if they could!

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My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

I'm seeing the same pattern I saw with Star Trek: Discovery (race and gender) and Captain Marvel (gender) - a critic would say 'I don't like the plot/logic/world/strength of the hero' and be accused of racism/sexism/not liking strong female characters, where this was untrue and just used to dismiss valid criticism. On the other hand, there was a contingent of people who did dislike it based on somewhat sexist or anti…

Apparently it's also used as a marketing strategy. I remember reading news when the 2016 Ghostbusters trailer dropped of Sony deleting negative comments on the video - but only the non-sexist ones that made legitimate criticisms of the humour or other non-controversial stuff. The theory was that they left the sexist, racist comments live so that they could characterize all their criticism as such. Clever plan, if true.

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Not faithful? More like it presents exactly the opposite ideas. Why choose Foundation if you hate every concept that the books stand for?

The show is kinda OK if you ignore the book, I.e. for general public. Expensive, good CG, etc. What does feel painful though is the wasted opportunity: chances are that Foundation will never get its Peter Jackson.

The missed opportunity seems to be too big to wrap my head around. It could have started something truly great, another Space Opera to rival Star wars and star trek duopoly.
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