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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Say something nice about TRoP.

The thing that's got me interested is the entrance of Gandalf (I presume.) Dropped in from the heavens like an alien, found in a smoldering crater, clearly baffled by up-close Arda, can't speak "the" language, mystified by corporeal-ness, almost simian. The writers had enough of a clue to see the opportunity in making Gandalf's backstory a meaningful subplot, so they're developing it with some care, and that's pretty cool.

Also, the Elves aren't perfect, one dimensional beings it total harmony with all things. You've got politics, cowardice, rebellion and other stuff there. Morfydd Clark's Galadriel is ok. Reserving the benefit of the doubt there because there is a long way to go and it's a huge part for any actor.

Finally, Owain Arthur's Durin in Khazad-dûm was well acted (if not entirely well written at points.) Very memorable.

I think people are expecting a life changing experience from TRoP and aren't getting it, or something. It's just more streaming TV, and far from the worst of that. House of the Dragon is ok too, but one nice thing with TRoP is the absence of soft porn and disturbing torture scenes. That stuff is fine for HotD but it's also good to see story telling that won't resort to that.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#152

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

Perhaps sticking it to the man is what is now considered heroic. Self sacrifice is a foreign concept when your taught to love yourself first.

Self sacrifice is a tool people use to convince others to sacrifice themselves.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#153

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Woke seems to purposefully imply a bungled attempt at progressive characters so it's kind of tautological. But if we just mean progressive, then Zootopia.

Interesting. I did not perceive Zootopia as progressive ( tbh, I don't remember much of it except for the DMV skit ). Could you elaborate on that interpretation?

It’s all about diversity and stereotypes. Shows that one can’t trust stereotypes about certain types of people.

While amusingly also showing that stereotypes are mostly accurate.

It has a a couple of strong female leads fighting the system and taking down the man.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#154
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It seems kind of weird to characterize Tolkien fans being interested in a new, high-profile Lord of the Rings show as "brigading". Of course the people with the biggest emotional connection and interest in a franchise will be the ones most active in reviewing, creating YouTube videos, and discussing it online. I think the better question is why so many established sci-fi and franchises seem to be alienating their cor…

This is a very astute comment. We are living in some kind of Twilight Zone environment right now. Corporations purchase IP for decades-long, popular franchises, then deliberately alienate their core audience. Then they act as if all these people they just deliberately pissed off aren't real people. Words like "brigading" are a clever way to dehumanize your critics.

Applying Occam's razor, given that this process has repeated for years over multiple franchises, the conclusion is that the core audience is not who you think they are. Online commentary creates a strong visibility bias. Reddit is perhaps the most egregious example of this.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#155

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

Don't you think that 2 episodes is a bit too little to judge the entire series like that? The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. Galadriel was not exactly likeable when she participated in the first kinslaying, or when she ran away from the war of wrath.

For a show where you spend 300M just for the rights, you are showing your best effort in those first couple of hours to hook people. At least that's what I've experienced with the many HBO shows I've watched and loved. Maybe the task is more difficult when you're building on an existing story, associated characters and lore that people have expectations of.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#156

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

Don't you think that 2 episodes is a bit too little to judge the entire series like that? The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. Galadriel was not exactly likeable when she participated in the first kinslaying, or when she ran away from the war of wrath.

I managed 2 episodes of Amazon's butchering of the WoT series and judged it to be absolutely crap.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#157

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

I went over 2 pages of 1star reviews in rottentomatos and not one mentioned the woke stuff. Not sure where this notion that it’s been brigaded by the anti-woke crowd comes from. Most bad reviews mentioned bland characters, mediocre acting, bad dialogue/writing etc.

Does that translate to 1 out of 10 stars, though, or are the 1 stars with these generic reviews still just a form of brigading?

Edit: lol, sorry for questioning the bad-faith 1-star reviews, keep down voting

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#158

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I went over 2 pages of 1star reviews in rottentomatos and not one mentioned the woke stuff. Not sure where this notion that it’s been brigaded by the anti-woke crowd comes from. Most bad reviews mentioned bland characters, mediocre acting, bad dialogue/writing etc.

Does that translate to 1 out of 10 stars, though, or are the 1 stars with these generic reviews still just a form of brigading? Edit: lol, sorry for questioning the bad-faith 1-star reviews, keep down voting

Isn't that just fair grade inflation. Either 5 or 1 star so either 10 or 1 out of 10.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't you think that 2 episodes is a bit too little to judge the entire series like that? The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. Galadriel was not exactly likeable when she participated in the first kinslaying, or when she ran away from the war of wrath.

I managed 2 episodes of Amazon's butchering of the WoT series and judged it to be absolutely crap.

WIT was genuinely awful, no argument there. I just think while ROP isn’t everything I’d have wished for, it’s nowhere near as unwatchable as all that.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#160

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Perhaps sticking it to the man is what is now considered heroic. Self sacrifice is a foreign concept when your taught to love yourself first.

Self sacrifice is a tool people use to convince others to sacrifice themselves.

self sacrifice along with competence are both necessary conditions of being a good leader.
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