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Post by peoplefromibiza »

vermilingua wrote: post #173
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love You mean three books, right? The difference here is that Aragorn was written by Tolkien, this show wasn't and has completely betrayed the original material. Race or gender swaps are not a big issue, but they become one if the purpose is…

You mean one book, right? /s

originally it was three, published over the span of ~1 year.

29 July 1954 (The Fellowship of the Ring)

11 November 1954 (The Two Towers)

20 October 1955 (The Return of the King)

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by eternalban »

auggierose wrote: post #138
throw0101c wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. The first two episodes of TRoP are 90 minutes each, for a total run time of three hours. Three hours is about the run time of the first LoTR movie (Fellowship): how much story were they able to tell in those three hours? Further, the other epic fantasy series, House of Dragons , also has released two episodes: how much…

Watched only the first episode of Dragons, but I am not convinced. What is the point of this show? We know that the real fight between dead and living is happening 200 years later. We know that all of the dragons will be dead at some point. The characters itself are pretty boring, compared to what Thrones had to offer. It is technically well made, but it is boring.

I recently binge watched a series (Irma Vep) that, very tongue in cheek, addressed the malaise of "platforms" affecting film/cinema. It's a very complex work (in terms of multiple layers of readings) spanning the director's closure over his lost love (see Irma Vep 1996), a hat tip to Truffaut's Day for Night, and a very explicitly expressed concern of characters of how "content platforms" have killed cinema and mutated it to "TV" and "series". Naturally all this was said, to wrap up the irony train, on HBO's platform.

Irma Vep (2022): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13649314

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by farleykr »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #167
farleykr wrote: post #61

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

> Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love You mean three books, right? The difference here is that Aragorn was written by Tolkien, this show wasn't and has completely betrayed the original material. Race or gender swaps are not a big issue, but they become one if the purpose is…

> You mean three books, right?

Point taken. My goal was to contrast the unsuccessful show with another adaptation that was successful imo.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by sprkwd »

nvr219 wrote: post #118
nathanaldensr wrote: post #9

We are not allowed to state opinions that do not agree with our woke corporate masters, it seems. What are they so afraid of?

I don't know what "woke" means here but if you mean like, "caring about social justice issues", then the corporate masters are definitely not that. lol

I always mentally replace the word ‘woke’ with the word ‘caring’ and that shows me a great measure of people.

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Post by baba-yaga »

tjpnz wrote: post #84

I think people with legitimate criticisms are starting to get really tired being called a racist or a misogynist. 99% of the reviews aren't about wokeness at all. They're about the writing, the pacing and the how unbelievably dull the show is.

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Post by fmajid »

farleykr wrote: post #61

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

Galadriel took part in the kinslaying at Alqualondë, she is totally a dick. The LOTR movies portrayed her in a much more positive light than the books.

True heroes as you describe them exist only in your imagination and in fairy tales.

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Post by seanalltogether »

nathias wrote: post #69

the show deserves 3/4 at best, I haven't seen anything so expensive this bad, it's really weird that this much money can't buy quality in any of the aspects of the show

My guess is that because they threw so much money at this, they also put too many cooks in the kitchen. You're gonna end up killing all creativity if it has to get rubber-stamped by a long line of "producers".

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Post by vintermann »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #20
pseudo0 wrote: post #6

Interesting to contrast the IMDB rating with Rotten Tomatoes, not owned by Amazon, which currently has an audience rating of 38%. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_... In my opinion, Steam does the best job of handling this tricky problem by leaving all reviews up and transparently letting the user pick whether or not to include periods of "unusual activity".

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If they don't care about the source material, then a story about Prince Cabosiam and the Dragons of Krongar would be just as fine. When someone pays to use famous names or famous stories as source material, then that's because that's valuable, and then it's self-evident that faithfulness matters.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by narag »

smcl wrote: post #110
tjpnz wrote: post #84

I think people with legitimate criticisms are starting to get really tired being called a racist or a misogynist. 99% of the reviews aren't about wokeness at all. They're about the writing, the pacing and the how unbelievably dull the show is.

People were up in arms before a single episode aired, because they saw a fictional species (dwarf) had dark skin. many of those people have now pivoted their arguments against the show to being about pacing, writing (note: I’m in no way implying this is you, I haven’t seen any LotR series opinions on HN) - but the racist stuff has already occurred

Since there were no dark skin in depictions that are chronologicallly later, the two trilogies we already watched, it means that some terrible genocidal racial cleansing happened in between.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by bombcar »

isbvhodnvemrwvn wrote: post #106
throw0101c wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. The first two episodes of TRoP are 90 minutes each, for a total run time of three hours. Three hours is about the run time of the first LoTR movie (Fellowship): how much story were they able to tell in those three hours? Further, the other epic fantasy series, House of Dragons , also has released two episodes: how much…

I'm not saying it's of the same caliber as the trilogy, but it's definitely not garbage which deserves one star. It's already better than the hobbit, however low of a bar that is.

If it was worse than everyone has said it was, it’d still be better than Hobbit 3.
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