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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Don't you think that 2 episodes is a bit too little to judge the entire series like that? The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. Galadriel was not exactly likeable when she participated in the first kinslaying, or when she ran away from the war of wrath.

Galadriel tried to stop the Kinslaying - it's the reason she had to cross the Arctic rather than ride on ships[1] - and she didn't "run away" from the War of Wrath. As for her general character, though she was proud and wanted to be "free" in her own lands, she was described as wise, understanding, and merciful from her earliest years. [2] I am never going to watch the series because the movies were bad enough, and I…

There’s propaganda on both sides. You’re quite right about Galadriel in the earlier ages, but those complaining about her being a Mary Sue in the show are also missing the mark. She fought, she had ambition. Tolkien Elves are generally ridiculously OP compared to humans.

If you didn’t like the films, you won’t like the show. I’m ok with it so far, it’s exceeded my initially very low expectations, and as fantasy fan fic it’s fine IMHO.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

> Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love You mean three books, right? The difference here is that Aragorn was written by Tolkien, this show wasn't and has completely betrayed the original material. Race or gender swaps are not a big issue, but they become one if the purpose is…

You mean one book, right? /s

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Perhaps sticking it to the man is what is now considered heroic. Self sacrifice is a foreign concept when your taught to love yourself first.

Self sacrifice is a tool people use to convince others to sacrifice themselves.

The little red hen is clearly a tool used to control other people.

The story could easily have been written by venture capitalists, trying to convince potential employers to sign on to risky entrepreneurial ventures in exchange for a share in the future rewards.

And obviously, animals don’t form cross species coalitions to manufacture baked goods. So it’s Better for us to disregard the story entirely.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Also on the side of Amazon delivery vans.

And the Amazon boxes you get delivered have LOTR graphics on them

And the loading screens in Adobe products have LotR based graphics on them as well.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I am going to rock the boat a little. I am admittedly not a big Tolkien fan ( I think tried reading one book once and, to me, it was worse experience than Ulysses ). I can easily plead ignorance here. Are there any black guys mentioned in those books? If not, not sticking to script is a valid complaint ( see how annoyed people were with Game of Thrones departure -- it is not a question of race; it is a question of mo…

Minor roles only as southerners "middelearth-terranean" pirates. LOT mimicks the Tolkien World, that was European and catholic, and roots deep in European mythology and about experiencing World War. There is not a lot of room to introduce Asian or African characters in that history and they can distract easily from the immersion. Is not different that seeing white actors posing as American natives in old films with a…

I must admit, the sight of a black man entering a tavern full of white people did not urk me in the slightest. In fact, the thought that it might be odd never even entered my mind and never broke my immersion.

The characters a bland enough that there is plenty to complain about that does not include their race or sexual orientation. Does "race" even apply considering there is literal other races?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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When websites remove reviews for "review bombing", I have never ever seen them also remove the "reverse review bombing", basically the people that give it an undeserved 10 to "make up" for the review bombing or whatever.

And that is clearly happening here

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7631058/ratings

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I think people with legitimate criticisms are starting to get really tired being called a racist or a misogynist. 99% of the reviews aren't about wokeness at all. They're about the writing, the pacing and the how unbelievably dull the show is.

People were up in arms before a single episode aired, because they saw a fictional species (dwarf) had dark skin. many of those people have now pivoted their arguments against the show to being about pacing, writing (note: I’m in no way implying this is you, I haven’t seen any LotR series opinions on HN) - but the racist stuff has already occurred

I wonder how well it would go down if someone made a show about slavery in USA with all of the black people being played by non-blacks... For inclusivity you know? Get some Asians there. Maybe gender swap the historical big figures to boot and have them speak Chinese or something.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#179
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Tolkien’s legendarium isn’t a “franchise”, brigading is the work of trolls not fans, and the degree to which it panders to an existing audience is the most tawdry, and least interesting, measure of any creative work.

Reducing OP’s argument of “alienating fans” to “pandering to fans” is a logically false and intellectually dishonest argument.

It is simply the other side of the same coin. The actual intellectual dishonesty on display is the suggestion that an identifiable “core audience” exists, and can be alienated at all.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#180
Well, we live in the age where the story hardly matters. I saw Top Gun the other day, and was shocked at how bad it was. The aerial stuff was superb, but everything else looked so amateurish. Acting was hideous, the story was so predictable and boring there was hardly any substance to the film. And yet it got an 8,5 rating at imdb.
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