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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by nicolas_t »

danskeren wrote: post #2

Not sure if IMDb has a history of deleting negative user reviews made in good faith, but worth noting that IMDb and The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (TV series) are both owned by Amazon.

They didn't seem to delete user reviews for Lightyear made by all the bigots that were offended by having two women kissing in the movie so it seems that there's some preferential treatment for Amazon properties.

And deleting negative reviews by bigots at least would be more defensible than deleting negative reviews from fans of Tolkien who take issue with the treatment of the work they love.

EDIT: I still haven't seen the show yet and I originally thought the issue with review bombing was similar to people like me hating the show foundation on Apple TV... I see now that people claim that a lot of negative reviews were due to the race of characters and people claiming the "show is too woke". In that case, it's actually more of a similar situation to Lightyear. Still, it's very interesting to see the differing treatment of Lightyear, a pixar property compared to this, an Amazon show.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by stingraycharles »

sofixa wrote: post #91
fredski42 wrote: post #5

Ah. Didn’t know IMDB was owned by Amazon. Put’s all ratings on Prime in a different perspective.

> Didn’t know IMDB was owned by Amazon Yep. That's what enables Prime Video's X-Ray where you can see details about the actors and music of a particular scene while watching, and what also makes it impossible for competitors such as Netflix to have a similar feature. If IMDB were separate, the data would probably be accessible to anyone.

IMDB is the only provider of this type of data?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by simonh »

renox wrote: post #57
simonh wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were black peoples, or at least Middle Eastern, all over Medieval Europe. The Arthurian cycle has moorish knights. When Eleanor of Aquitaine married the English king, part of her dowry was a North African city. Are we to believe none of them travelled to England? Berber pirates raided Iceland for slaves so there were whites people in Africa, why not black people in Europe? Some people travelled a lot. The Saxon…

OTOH, I remember a black colleague created quite a sensation when he traveled in a non-touristic part of China.. That said, 'historical fictions' are usually much more fiction than historical.

Why go to fiction when we have real history, like Yasuke the ‘black samurai’.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by Kiro »

Lacerda69 wrote: post #64
WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #20

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>the show is not faithful to the source material. I think it actually is pretty faithful to it. There is not a lot of sources for the 2nd age from Tolkien and they did a great job with what was there. Most of the bad reviews are just trolls screeching about some political agenda that is completely ubrelated to the show.

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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

farleykr wrote: post #61

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

Name a „woke“ movie with likable characters. One.

Its a contradiction in terms - you cannot be a spiritual scold or schoolmarm and mold a set of likable characters from this essence.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by isbvhodnvemrwvn »

throw0101c wrote: post #98
isbvhodnvemrwvn wrote: post #71

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Don't you think that 2 episodes is a bit too little to judge the entire series like that? The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. Galadriel was not exactly likeable when she participated in the first kinslaying, or when she ran away from the war of wrath.

> The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. The first two episodes of TRoP are 90 minutes each, for a total run time of three hours. Three hours is about the run time of the first LoTR movie (Fellowship): how much story were they able to tell in those three hours? Further, the other epic fantasy series, House of Dragons , also has released two episodes: how much…

I'm not saying it's of the same caliber as the trilogy, but it's definitely not garbage which deserves one star. It's already better than the hobbit, however low of a bar that is.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by WastingMyTime89 »

pseudo0 wrote: post #85
WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #56

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Because it’s not the core audience. People who care about the lore and source material are insignificant compared to the amount of people who just enjoy a lavish production in a medieval fantasy setting. Clearly Amazon is targeting the people who enjoyed the movies and want a similar experience in a TV show format. Most don’t really care that it conforms to what Tolkien wrote. Heck, I’m probably unusual compared to t…

I hate to do the "pull out the dictionary" thing, but those people are precisely the core audience for LoTR media ( https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/core-... ): > the type of people who are most likely to buy a particular product, watch a particular TV programme, etc. The Tolkien fans don't need a dozen Amazon Prime adverts to watch a new LoTR show, they seek out new LoTR content on their own. T…

I think that even by your definition the core audience is people who enjoyed the movies and watch prestige TV shows especially when you consider the marketing campaign. That’s the people Amazon is targeting. Fans of LotR as a universe are a very small subsection of that.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by nvr219 »

nicbou wrote: post #18
somehnacct3757 wrote: post #15

All crowd-sourced online aggregation is bogus. Every single form of it has someone placing their finger on the scale one way or the other. If it isn't a familial corporation it's for-hire bot farms, perhaps even hired by your competition. Or maybe it's the aggregator themselves, running a digital protection racket. Instead, go read a full review written by a trusted curator.

There isn't always a trusted curator. Most of the time, there isn't.

I generally rely on my friends' recommendations because they know me (and watch a lot more TV than I do somehow)

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by fabian2k »

throw0101c wrote: post #98
isbvhodnvemrwvn wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't you think that 2 episodes is a bit too little to judge the entire series like that? The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. Galadriel was not exactly likeable when she participated in the first kinslaying, or when she ran away from the war of wrath.

> The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. The first two episodes of TRoP are 90 minutes each, for a total run time of three hours. Three hours is about the run time of the first LoTR movie (Fellowship): how much story were they able to tell in those three hours? Further, the other epic fantasy series, House of Dragons , also has released two episodes: how much…

If I exclude the credits both episodes are almost exactly 60 minutes long. And the credits are ~5 minutes or so, so the displayed runtime is 1 hour and a few minutes. I have no idea where you get the 90 minutes from, that is simply not true.

I have watched both Rings of Power and The House of the Dragon, and both are essentially setting up the story in the first two episodes. There is plot in those episodes of course, but a lot is setting up characters and places and the world in general.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by smcl »

tjpnz wrote: post #84

I think people with legitimate criticisms are starting to get really tired being called a racist or a misogynist. 99% of the reviews aren't about wokeness at all. They're about the writing, the pacing and the how unbelievably dull the show is.

People were up in arms before a single episode aired, because they saw a fictional species (dwarf) had dark skin. many of those people have now pivoted their arguments against the show to being about pacing, writing (note: I’m in no way implying this is you, I haven’t seen any LotR series opinions on HN) - but the racist stuff has already occurred
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