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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I have not seen it myself, but every criticism I've read so far was complaining about "mandatory woke". Some reviews also mentioned other things they don't like, like costumes not being good or fights being cinematic instead of subdued or characters appearing where they shouldn't be if you take Silmarillion into accord ... but I have not read even one review that didn't include some version of "I hate it because it h…

I don’t think all critics of “mandatory woke” can be boiled down to “I hate it because it has black people in it”. I mean I wouldn’t personally use the world woke because it looks mostly devoid of meaning but as a European, the mandatory diversity in American production has reached a point where it sometimes gets very funny. I don’t really mind it because it doesn’t affect the narrative structure of what you are watc…

> I must confess that I did roll my eyes at black characters acting normally in the middle of a tavern in medieval Europe recently.

It ruins the whole viewing experience, because you stop buying what you see. Characters are just very obviously not believable anymore. People in present times still react strongly to people of different skin color if they are not used to seeing them. And I am supposed to just let it slide, that a group of illiterate people, whose access to media consists only of some paintings in church to illustrate the Latin sermon they cannot even understand, just did not react whatsoever to some obvious foreigner, who - by definition, not because of the skin color - could very likely have robbed and killed them?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I don't get reviews saying that TRoP, or some other new prestige TV series, is "terrible", or "a disaster", based on the first couple of episodes. Some really excellent TV series have taken more than a whole 26-episode season before they find their rhythm and get properly good. ST:TNG is a classic example, but I'm pretty sure you can come up with others. And some people are claiming that a new series totally worthles…

I want to know if it is worth watching a series while it's airing.

It may not be fair, but I have more important things to do with my time than give mind share to mega corp projects which are poorly executed.

These aren't some small teams labours of love which I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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People are grumpy because Amazon gutted LotR universe, made it an empty vessel for their political ideology and now refuse to deal with well-earned criticism in an honest fashion.

There are definitely black people in Middle Earth, even in the movies.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I have not seen it myself, but every criticism I've read so far was complaining about "mandatory woke". Some reviews also mentioned other things they don't like, like costumes not being good or fights being cinematic instead of subdued or characters appearing where they shouldn't be if you take Silmarillion into accord ... but I have not read even one review that didn't include some version of "I hate it because it h…

I don’t think all critics of “mandatory woke” can be boiled down to “I hate it because it has black people in it”. I mean I wouldn’t personally use the world woke because it looks mostly devoid of meaning but as a European, the mandatory diversity in American production has reached a point where it sometimes gets very funny. I don’t really mind it because it doesn’t affect the narrative structure of what you are watc…

> mandatory diversity

For everyone except East Asian males. They are generally not allowed into the diversity club unless they're playing a martial arts expert.

East Asian women get casted because, well, at least they're women. Maybe they can find themselves a nice non-East Asian boyfriend in the movie. East Asian men can go and screw themselves.

God forbid if they included a conservative older white male who isn't portrayed as a heinous villain.

You have to remember that the woke writers are not striving for real diversity, they are striving to placate the cultural elite on Twitter and look good in front of their woke friends. It is a status contest.

I think this is all part of the reason why "woke" shows get canned so hard. It is so obviously contrived and not reflective of real life. They are not making timeless content.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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It seems kind of weird to characterize Tolkien fans being interested in a new, high-profile Lord of the Rings show as "brigading". Of course the people with the biggest emotional connection and interest in a franchise will be the ones most active in reviewing, creating YouTube videos, and discussing it online. I think the better question is why so many established sci-fi and franchises seem to be alienating their cor…

Because it’s not the core audience.

People who care about the lore and source material are insignificant compared to the amount of people who just enjoy a lavish production in a medieval fantasy setting.

Clearly Amazon is targeting the people who enjoyed the movies and want a similar experience in a TV show format. Most don’t really care that it conforms to what Tolkien wrote. Heck, I’m probably unusual compared to the average watcher in that I have actually read LotR and the Silmarillion as a teenager and I don’t care about fidelity to the source material.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I don’t think all critics of “mandatory woke” can be boiled down to “I hate it because it has black people in it”. I mean I wouldn’t personally use the world woke because it looks mostly devoid of meaning but as a European, the mandatory diversity in American production has reached a point where it sometimes gets very funny. I don’t really mind it because it doesn’t affect the narrative structure of what you are watc…

There were black peoples, or at least Middle Eastern, all over Medieval Europe. The Arthurian cycle has moorish knights. When Eleanor of Aquitaine married the English king, part of her dowry was a North African city. Are we to believe none of them travelled to England? Berber pirates raided Iceland for slaves so there were whites people in Africa, why not black people in Europe? Some people travelled a lot. The Saxon…

OTOH, I remember a black colleague created quite a sensation when he traveled in a non-touristic part of China..

That said, 'historical fictions' are usually much more fiction than historical.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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https://web.archive.org/web/20220903103220/https://www.imdb.... https://web.archive.org/web/20220903104125/https://www.imdb.... https://web.archive.org/web/20220903104126/https://www.imdb.... https://web.archive.org/web/20220903104131/https://www.imdb.... https://web.archive.org/web/20220903104824/https://www.imdb.... indeed all show zero results. Anything higher than a 5, does show results: https://web.archive.org/w…

I have to admit that I did chuckle a little at some of the 10/10 quotes ( caps preserved ):

I agree they should have kept at least few 1s for pretends.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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All crowd-sourced online aggregation is bogus. Every single form of it has someone placing their finger on the scale one way or the other. If it isn't a familial corporation it's for-hire bot farms, perhaps even hired by your competition. Or maybe it's the aggregator themselves, running a digital protection racket. Instead, go read a full review written by a trusted curator.

>Instead, go read a full review written by a trusted curator.

That's the point, trusted curators have been drifting further and further from what the majority of people find good for a long time.

What critics find good and what the target audience finds good are not the same: https://youtu.be/eFRWDZBH8Dc?t=745

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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People are grumpy because Amazon gutted LotR universe, made it an empty vessel for their political ideology and now refuse to deal with well-earned criticism in an honest fashion.

Based on what exactly? If anything the only complaint you can make is that the 2 episodes we got so far just dragged out the world building way too much.

We had almost 2 and a half hours of content and it doesn’t seem we’re even done with the introduction to the gang that would become fellowship of the rings ;)

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