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Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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For average people, iPhones are aspirational, android is what you get if you can’t afford an iPhone. So as soon as you can afford it, you buy one. Tech people excluded because they have other niche reasons for their smartphone choice.

Anyone can buy an iPhone for the same price or less than most Android phones. $399/429.

That's the price of a decent midrange Android phone. I'm pretty sure most Android phones are less than $400.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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I was a big fan and supporter of Android all the way from version 2.2 up to version 8. The final straw was when my brand new 800 dollar motorola phone, which was owned by google at the time stopped getting updates barely a year after I bought it. I also noticed that everything I liked about Android was slowly being stripped away, and Apple was slowly adding all the things I felt were missing. Still not the biggest fa…

To be fair, Moto got sold to Lenovo and overnight went from poster child to black ship of the Android family.

Also note that your issue is not with Android, it's with moto.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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iPhones aren’t even that expensive anymore. You can get a like-new iPhone SE 2020(which has the same CPU as a 13 Pro Max) for a mere $200 online. There is no Android phone that comes close to the price:performance ratio. Even the cheapest Android phones any prepaid carrier sells retails for $150. It simply blows every other comparably priced Android out of the water.

Old phones have stale batteries that do not last as long as newer phones. In my experience iphone users carry a powerbank with them.

Has there been some breakthrough in lithium ion battery technology in the last 2 years that Im not aware of? I have 2x 2020 SE's which I've used every day and the battery life is still great. Im always surprised how much time I have before shutdown while using my phone at 1%.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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Are there any "real" (come on, techy people, you know what I mean) reasons for going Apple besides I suppose the genuine convenience of fully interoperable phone/messaging across devices (which I fully concede is probably a big one for a good number of people?) The price differences between Android and Apple still strike me as absurd. On the other side, I went from "picking an Android very carefully for rooting" grad…

I made the jump from Android to Apple a year ago. For me, the benefits were that Apple has a much nicer camera than any of the Android options (especially all the Pixel phones, which have essentially had exactly the same camera for the past six years or so), and that I knew I’d get software updates for at least five years.

Before this I had the Nexus 6P, which despite being a Google branded phone, only got updates for three years. If you amortize the cost of the phone over five years instead of three, it suddenly makes the Apple phones seem like a deal.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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I feel like many people love iOS, but many also hate it (not open enough, lock in etc.) but they hate the cheapishness and crappiness of Android even more. Is there any development ongoing for a mobile OS that is not full of crap like Android, but not as restrictive as iOS? Not sure if Windows Phone or PalmOS were like that, but those are both gone…

Linux phones, but they're still years off usability-wise.

This is where my mind is - although I don't think they're quite as far off as you might think.

Frankly - I don't like Apple or Google, and I'm damned tired of being sold hardware that has software locks I'm not given a key to (And at least in this case, Google is better - so I'm still on android hardware for now).

But what I really want is a linux phone at this point. Google had exactly the same reputation 20 years ago that Apple has now (height of the "do no evil" stage). It turns out that companies literally cannot help themselves.

So just like I've moved almost exclusively to linux on non-work computers, I plan to move exclusively to a free OS on my phone hardware. Right now that's un-googled forks of android, but I genuinely hope to see usable phones running on debian/arch/etc in the very near future. We're tantalizingly close with things like the pinephone pro, and the librem.

I was able to use the non-pro pinephone as a daily driver for a bit, and it worked, but not well. And despite sounding negative - that's frankly a huge jump from where we were 5 years ago when a working linux phone (in any shape) was mostly a pipe-dream. I think there's a lot of interest in this area right now.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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Are there any "real" (come on, techy people, you know what I mean) reasons for going Apple besides I suppose the genuine convenience of fully interoperable phone/messaging across devices (which I fully concede is probably a big one for a good number of people?) The price differences between Android and Apple still strike me as absurd. On the other side, I went from "picking an Android very carefully for rooting" grad…

I switched from Android to iPhone. I was tired of my Android phones (Samsung Galaxy’s) only receiving updates for ~2 years. On top of that, I found that there was a lot of “jank” when using some apps. They would crash, fail to load, slow down etc… I attribute that mostly due to the Java based code. I also hated having both Google and Samsung trying to bait me into their “ecosystems”. They also have both the device OE…

Avoid Samsung on every single product line they have.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Price difference? iPhone SE is $429, iPhone 11 is $499, iPhone 12 $599, iPhone 13 $699. I feel like people who still are stuck at Apple pricing, have really no idea about Apple pricing. Sure, if you want the maxed out best iPhone, it'll be around 1 thousand USD, but so will be maxed out best Android.

But you're talking old phones in the 499 range. You can get new phones in that range in the android ecosystem. Many people inherently don't want last years model, or the model from 3 years ago. Apple just isn't as competitive for new devices.

The full range of the current phones Apple sells today (2022 iPhone SE on the low end through the iPhone 13 Pro Max on the high end) both use the same chipset: the A15 "bionic". As you go up the scale, you're paying more for hardware features (better camera sensor, front depth sensor for face scanning, etc.). This will probably change pretty soon, only because the higher-end phones tend to be refreshed in the fall and the low-end phone was announced and then refreshed in the spring.

Obviously, you can save some money by buying an older phone with better hardware features, but the same applies to Android -- this year's "mushy middle" of pricing is occupied with last year's flagship model.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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Are there any "real" (come on, techy people, you know what I mean) reasons for going Apple besides I suppose the genuine convenience of fully interoperable phone/messaging across devices (which I fully concede is probably a big one for a good number of people?) The price differences between Android and Apple still strike me as absurd. On the other side, I went from "picking an Android very carefully for rooting" grad…

iPhones are durable and are supported for longer times. Some people prefer spending more upfront for a product that will last longer. iOS is not a bad OS, and some might say that is more idiot proof than Android.

no f-droid on iphone…

Which means 0 chance of getting apps with no tracking.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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Yeah totally must be iMessage and not the fact that iPhones just feel significantly smoother and less laggy, have a way better looking interface, and way better security overall(Android doesn’t even have full disk encryption lol..)

What models are you comparing? I had both between 2016-2018 for work and I was shocked at how slow, buggy/unresponsive, annoying(sign in/update reminders upon unlock), and featureless my work iphone was to my Pixel. I have no idea what it's like in 2022, but it was such a horrible experience.

iPhone 2020 SE, which cost me $200 in grade-A+ condition on ebay. They have the same processor as the 13 Pro Max. vs. every Android phone I ever touched. I work for a phone company and helped people setup and fix problems on hundreds of different models of Androids.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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post #31

Are there any "real" (come on, techy people, you know what I mean) reasons for going Apple besides I suppose the genuine convenience of fully interoperable phone/messaging across devices (which I fully concede is probably a big one for a good number of people?) The price differences between Android and Apple still strike me as absurd. On the other side, I went from "picking an Android very carefully for rooting" grad…

There are zero Android phones that are usable one-handed. Apple makes two such models. I strongly prefer Android as an operating system, but if I can't physically use the phone, it's useless to me. So I'm on iPhone.

I actually found some, but this is Japanese models. The one I have got is Sharp Aquos R2 compact.
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