Switched from Android to iPhone a few months ago. Hard to believe the difference. Android is really bad at many things, and I had a good brand (One Plus 6). Taking a picture on Android is an awful experience. The Camera app takes about 3 seconds to open, and freezes for a second when taking a picture. The Camera app on iPhone opens instantly and takes photos instantly. The quality of the pictures taken on the iPhone…
Oneplus is a good brand since when? They are a Chinese manufacturer like many others.
I'd put them squarely midrange. They start out better but their OS modifications often wind up sabotaging the hardware (insanely fast charging to go with the insanely fast, heavy use drain).
Are there any "real" (come on, techy people, you know what I mean) reasons for going Apple besides I suppose the genuine convenience of fully interoperable phone/messaging across devices (which I fully concede is probably a big one for a good number of people?) The price differences between Android and Apple still strike me as absurd. On the other side, I went from "picking an Android very carefully for rooting" grad…
For general consumers, the Apple ecosystem beyond just messaging is a legitimate reason. It’s not just messaging, it’s handoff of your browser from your phone to your tablet to your laptop so you can easily keep reading a website even if you swap devices. It’s Apple Pay. It’s Apple Music. Sure, there are Android apps for all of those things, but you have to spend time picking each app and setting it up. Starting a ne…
To add to this: Apple, like Disney, is generally pretty good at user experience (and, in my opinion, something they've both been faltering on as of late, just look at Genie+). I got a Steam Deck a few weeks ago, and while it's a very good device, there are some software shortcomings that other mobile devices don't have (eg: the device pauses downloads and updates in sleep mode, even when it's plugged in, while my iPhone does a pretty good job of waiting until the middle of the night when the device is on mains power to run app updates and download OS updates). UX is one of those things that's not easily quantifiable or can be objectively described like a feature checklist, so it tends to get overlooked.
Are there any "real" (come on, techy people, you know what I mean) reasons for going Apple besides I suppose the genuine convenience of fully interoperable phone/messaging across devices (which I fully concede is probably a big one for a good number of people?) The price differences between Android and Apple still strike me as absurd. On the other side, I went from "picking an Android very carefully for rooting" grad…
Having the Apple Store support option is another one. Yes, repairs can be a bit expensive, but most of them can be done same-day instead of having to ship my phone off for a week+ to get repairs. This depends on where you’re located though — in some places it’s much easier to get quick OEM repairs for (some) Android devices than for Apple ones. The A-series chips are also genuinely very good, but one could argue that…
Right. But I feel like "just get another one for 150" is a comparable solution.
I think a lot of it is the UX and design feeling so advesarial and frankly cheap.
I'm a long time android user but lately I've been wondering if it's still a reasonable choice.
I'm writing this from my brand new pixel and I'm frankly shocked how bad the UX is.
one of the most blatant dark patters is the impossible to remove (without installing a third party launcher) google assistant/search bar that takes up the most important screen realestate right on the bottom.
another horrid design choice is the (also impossible to remove without third party tools) "at a glance" widget which stays in place and shows the date even when you turn the feature off. it also sits just slightly off to the left from where the clock widget ALSO shows the date making it look like hot garbage
Must say I'm a little surprised with many of the comments from a tech focused site/forum like this one. I find that Android is a far more open system with a great community that rewards the inner hacker (no matter how much of a novice they may be).
I have a Samsung Galaxy S4, it is still a very usuable phone and is running a modern android version and gets regular updates. Sure it is a bit slow and I had to flash a custom rom (/e/os) but that is not hard to do.
This phone is now almost 10 years old, but still gets updates and can run most apps. I don't think this can be done with an iphone.
Are there any "real" (come on, techy people, you know what I mean) reasons for going Apple besides I suppose the genuine convenience of fully interoperable phone/messaging across devices (which I fully concede is probably a big one for a good number of people?) The price differences between Android and Apple still strike me as absurd. On the other side, I went from "picking an Android very carefully for rooting" grad…
Price difference? iPhone SE is $429, iPhone 11 is $499, iPhone 12 $599, iPhone 13 $699. I feel like people who still are stuck at Apple pricing, have really no idea about Apple pricing. Sure, if you want the maxed out best iPhone, it'll be around 1 thousand USD, but so will be maxed out best Android.
Again, as I've said above.
150. I have chosen the price point of 150. Whatever's on sale at Best Buy for that. Maybe Costco.
I am around Apple people. With the exception of that cross device thing which I concede can be a big deal for some, I have not dealt with or seen any significant differences between their experience and mine.
> I went from "picking an Android very carefully for rooting" gradually to "what's on sale at Best Buy for about 150" with no major shift in experience or quality. Well a lot of people can very clearly tell the difference between a middle of the pack iPhone and a $150 Android device. That you experienced no such variation among the Android lineup is why people prefer Apple. It "feels like" a premium product, is price…
iPhones aren’t even that expensive anymore. You can get a like-new iPhone SE 2020(which has the same CPU as a 13 Pro Max) for a mere $200 online. There is no Android phone that comes close to the price:performance ratio. Even the cheapest Android phones any prepaid carrier sells retails for $150. It simply blows every other comparably priced Android out of the water.
Old phones have stale batteries that do not last as long as newer phones.
In my experience iphone users carry a powerbank with them.
Must say I'm a little surprised with many of the comments from a tech focused site/forum like this one. I find that Android is a far more open system with a great community that rewards the inner hacker (no matter how much of a novice they may be). I have a Samsung Galaxy S4, it is still a very usuable phone and is running a modern android version and gets regular updates. Sure it is a bit slow and I had to flash a c…
For me, I think that’s actually part of why I stay away from Android. I tinker and whatnot with my open systems and it often leads to various forms of slight incompatibilities or instability. I rely on my phone to work consistently, and for me that’s meant staying with a more closed off ecosystem to protect me from myself.
I'm attached to the ecosystem, like watch, home hub, use Google One, Photos, etc. I was very close to switch to Apple, but picked a Samsung S series phone which is the first Android device that is actually polished. Imo Google made a mistake by giving too much freedom to manufacturers, they are really bad at making decent consumer devices and ditch their half baked product right after release. PC bussines model like…
I think this is why you see Pixel Phones. They want to make an aspirational device.
Also, clearly Samsung has tried to take up the premium approach (as well as every other tier)
I attribute most of this to iMessage and the associated lock-in effect. You don't see the same trend in the rest of the world where 3rd party messengers (Whatsapp, Viber, Line, snapchat, etc) are mostly used for comms. The inability of iPhones to easily host 'cracked' apps also acts as an anchor to adoption - theres a lot of people hooked on their cracked ad-free spotify or youtube apps, or games with 'everything fre…
Yeah totally must be iMessage and not the fact that iPhones just feel significantly smoother and less laggy, have a way better looking interface, and way better security overall(Android doesn’t even have full disk encryption lol..)
What models are you comparing? I had both between 2016-2018 for work and I was shocked at how slow, buggy/unresponsive, annoying(sign in/update reminders upon unlock), and featureless my work iphone was to my Pixel.
I have no idea what it's like in 2022, but it was such a horrible experience.