Our screwdriver took three years [video] • Hacker News Board

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by ptasci67 » Thu, Sep 01, 2022, 8:18 PM UTC

TheCapn wrote: post #218

omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

This is pretty common in my experience? Market some relatively common item to an out-group of individuals at stupid markup based off brand recognition alone and reap the rewards. LTT looks to be flexing his brand here on unsuspecting PC enthusiasts where anyone with more experience in the electrical trades knows where to get higher quality tools for better/similar pricing. I'll compare to my time in Paintball years a…

I take the video with a grain of salt of course but just to be fair here, the video spends the majority of its time explaining in great detail why Linus did NOT just slap his name on a megapro screwdriver. I actually found the minute details of how they designed, prototyped, and stressed over the screwdriver quite fascinating and while it may or may not translate to quality... it at least is a weak signal to me that someone considered every facet which I believe is somewhat correlated with quality.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by greycol » Thu, Sep 01, 2022, 8:40 PM UTC

omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

Their bottle opener is great, I spent a while looking for a decent one and ended up with it without knowing the wera brand beforehand. I'm not joking when I say I've bough some of their tools because the bottleopener was such good quality.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by tomcam » Thu, Sep 01, 2022, 8:45 PM UTC

bombcar wrote: post #112

exhilaration wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A cursory Google search suggests all of their manufacturing is done in Germany, the Czech Republic, and Taiwan -- is that right?

That is correct. Wera are often considered "top tier" in the screwdriver arena.

I just like knowing that there’s a screwdriver arena

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by rspeele » Thu, Sep 01, 2022, 8:49 PM UTC

SadWebDeveloper wrote: post #103

Seems like the juicero for screwdrivers... over-engineered tool that without the "LTT" branding could probably sink in the stores. Personally i like my tools rugged, kinda like Klein does it because "on the job" i tend to thrown them away either on purpose or by accident, this tool looks fragile, if little margins stuck the ratchet mechanism i can not wait what is going to happen when it suddenly falls from the 2nd f…

> juicero for screwdrivers

You have to buy a proprietary packet of orange juice and vodka?

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by kcb » Thu, Sep 01, 2022, 8:58 PM UTC

TheCapn wrote: post #221

kllrnohj wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seems like the juicero for screwdrivers... over-engineered tool that without the "LTT" branding could probably sink in the stores. Megapro (LTT's partner on this) has been selling this type of ratcheting driver w/ bit storage in the handle for 25 years and is pretty well reviewed. How did you manage to make the leap to Juicero & only "saved by LTT logo" nonsense from such a well established, long-running product?

So what advantages does the $69.99 LTT driver have over the $48.99, $54.99, or $59.99 ratcheting drivers sold by Magapro themeslves? I think that's more to what OP is getting at. Going to a store knowing the LTT driver is a rebranded Magapro, why would any consumer want to pay the markup besides the brand name? For me, the LTT driver's only notable differences are not valuable additions to justify the cost. I think t…

These questions and more would be answered if you watched the video.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by isitmadeofglass » Thu, Sep 01, 2022, 9:15 PM UTC

TheCapn wrote: post #218

omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

This is pretty common in my experience? Market some relatively common item to an out-group of individuals at stupid markup based off brand recognition alone and reap the rewards. LTT looks to be flexing his brand here on unsuspecting PC enthusiasts where anyone with more experience in the electrical trades knows where to get higher quality tools for better/similar pricing. I'll compare to my time in Paintball years a…

> Market some relatively common item to an out-group of individuals at stupid markup based off brand recognition alone and reap the rewards.

Yes, but is that really so bad? I mean you can get cheaper T-Shirts with better quality than the ones at the merch stand at concerts. People don’t buy them because they are under some delusion that their great value for price. They buy them to support the creators, and to be able to show and talk about their support of the creator to others.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by NCC1701DEngage » Thu, Sep 01, 2022, 9:17 PM UTC

dimator wrote: post #207

isatty wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Project Farm makes amazing videos.

unrelated: the depth of the YouTube channel library is simply staggering. it amazes me to uncover channels that i absolutely would have subscribed to on day-0 if i had known them. at the same time, youtube is really bad at exposing you to new channels that you would enjoy. they bombard you with similar videos ("here's 15 more toilet seat review videos for you!") but they're not able to extrapolate channel tastes for…

>at the same time, youtube is really bad at exposing you to new channels that you would enjoy. they bombard you with similar videos ("here's 15 more toilet seat review videos for you!") but they're not able to extrapolate channel tastes for some reason. it's left largely up to the user to dig around for collaterally-themed channels.

This is exactly why I am working on a team to create alternative YouTube recommendations. Our algorithm is designed to surface smaller more obscure but relevant channels.

Search a channel to get a list of channels making similar content. Our recommendations for Project Farm include other tool review channels like A Concord Carpenter / Toolboxbuzz and Thrifty Tool Shed. Click through to A Concord Carpenter's list of similar channels also reveals Tools & Stuff. Thrifty Tool Shed is a great example of a very small yet relevant channel that the algorithm surfaces (~15k subscribers).

Our list of channels similar to Project Farm:

https://channelgalaxy.com/id%3DUC2rzsm1Qi6N1X-wuOg_p0Ng/

Of course there are dozens more channels on PF's list that are about more general carpentry, metalsmithing, and home-engineering projects. And you can use the search bar at the top of the page to search any other channels you watch to get their similar channels lists.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by walrus01 » Thu, Sep 01, 2022, 9:18 PM UTC

omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

Or Wiha, which is also a very reputable German-manufactured steel hand tool company. Similarly named to Wera but a competitor.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=wiha+scre...

they make some excellent torx, security torx, hex, precision screwdriver sets. in addition to the larger stuff they make for 600/1000V insulated electrical use.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by dsego » Thu, Sep 01, 2022, 9:19 PM UTC

omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

Or something like this socket wrench set, the screwdriver handle with a T-bar comes in handy.

https://www.proxxon.com/en/industrial/23080.php

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by kabes » Thu, Sep 01, 2022, 9:20 PM UTC

walrus01 wrote: post #238

omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

Or Wiha, which is also a very reputable German-manufactured steel hand tool company. Similarly named to Wera but a competitor. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=wiha+scre... they make some excellent torx, security torx, hex, precision screwdriver sets. in addition to the larger stuff they make for 600/1000V insulated electrical use.

And Wiha actually came out better than Wera in some project farm tests. After I went all in on wera screwdrivers and bits. Even though I rarely need them, it hurts.