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#101
There's a cheap plastic handle design fairly common on old screwdrivers and i've seen it as a wooden handle on chisels too. I didn't know it's name until recently - the "London Pattern Handle". These are peak handle design IMO.

It lets you hold it in a few different ways, with your fingertips for work where you need to accurately feel what the tip is doing. With the palm of your hand when you need to apply lots of torque. It doesn't roll when you set it down. You can smack the end of it when you need to shock a slightly rusty or reluctant screw.

It's ironic because i think these are the cheapest design and i suspect most companies invent their own design precisely because this design is fairly evocative of old cheap mass produced hard plastic handles.

They just feel so good in your hand though. It's the perfect handle design.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#102
post #8

Not an apples-to-apples comparison, but I just wanted to see the price positioning for this screwdriver. It goes for $69.99 [0] and Megapro ratcheting screwdrivers (which they mentioned in their video) goes from ~$50 to $59.99, depending on what bits it comes with. [0] https://www.lttstore.com/products/screwdriver [1] https://megaprotools.com/collections/ratcheting-drivers

That's understating the difference - Megapro sell for significantly less than that in practice - pricing here in Canada is in the 30 CAD$ range from tool stores, depending on bit selection. The LTT driver is 3-4x the price once shipping and currency conversion is factored in.

[0] https://www.kmstools.com/megapro-ratcheting-multi-bit-screwd...

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#103
Seems like the juicero for screwdrivers... over-engineered tool that without the "LTT" branding could probably sink in the stores.

Personally i like my tools rugged, kinda like Klein does it because "on the job" i tend to thrown them away either on purpose or by accident, this tool looks fragile, if little margins stuck the ratchet mechanism i can not wait what is going to happen when it suddenly falls from the 2nd floor while installing an Access Point or Security Camera.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#104
post #8

Not an apples-to-apples comparison, but I just wanted to see the price positioning for this screwdriver. It goes for $69.99 [0] and Megapro ratcheting screwdrivers (which they mentioned in their video) goes from ~$50 to $59.99, depending on what bits it comes with. [0] https://www.lttstore.com/products/screwdriver [1] https://megaprotools.com/collections/ratcheting-drivers

"The ratchet is based on Megapro's long-standing & reliable design, but has been significantly modified to suit our needs. We reversed the ratchet direction (right for clockwise, left for anti-clockwise), adjusted the spring for lighter back-force which allows you to ratchet-drive even very small screws, and optimized for smoothness and quiet function. It's rated for operation of up to 220 inch-pounds of force." opti…

Why in the world do small screws need nearly 20 ft-lbs of force? That's a level where I'd be breaking out a much larger torque wrench. I'd be shocked if the kind of small machine screws in a PC can even withstand that force.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#105
post #5

Project Farm, a YouTube creator that faces various brands of tools off against each other, has purchased an early (but apparently production) release of one of these. In a recent comment on one of his videos he’s stated he aims to have a video of ratcheting screwdrivers including this one out in a few days. I’m optimistic given the attention to detail portrayed in this video, and the fact that Linus displays a passio…

Even without many third party reviews, they've sold through 60,000 drivers (and counting) in less than two days. Seems like plenty of people are already taking them for their word, or just want to show support for the channel.

LTT has a lot of goodwill. The brand is managed incredibly well and feels consistently personal, honest and authentic.

Probably a lot of people that just want them to do well in what they do. If you get a decent screwdriver out of it, that's nice I guess.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#106
post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

Wera makes quality stuff. I keep a small set of Wera drivers and sockets in each of my vehicles. And I keep one of their multi drivers upstairs in my office and one downstairs in the kitchen. They get used weekly.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#107

There's a cheap plastic handle design fairly common on old screwdrivers and i've seen it as a wooden handle on chisels too. I didn't know it's name until recently - the "London Pattern Handle". These are peak handle design IMO. It lets you hold it in a few different ways, with your fingertips for work where you need to accurately feel what the tip is doing. With the palm of your hand when you need to apply lots of to…

They also allow you to use a wrench/pliers to apply more torque/holding.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#108

Seems like the juicero for screwdrivers... over-engineered tool that without the "LTT" branding could probably sink in the stores. Personally i like my tools rugged, kinda like Klein does it because "on the job" i tend to thrown them away either on purpose or by accident, this tool looks fragile, if little margins stuck the ratchet mechanism i can not wait what is going to happen when it suddenly falls from the 2nd f…

> Seems like the juicero for screwdrivers... over-engineered tool that without the "LTT" branding could probably sink in the stores.

I haven't used one so I don't know how durable they are, but I got the opposite impression. The juicero served no purpose. If you don't need a multi-purpose screwdriver that's one thing, but it does have plenty of use-cases and there are a lot of competitors which they showed so they are in demand to some extent. I'd say their attempt is more akin to Snap-on with how much energy they seemed to focus on ergonomics and UX, especially the ratcheting mechanism.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#109
post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

A cursory Google search suggests all of their manufacturing is done in Germany, the Czech Republic, and Taiwan -- is that right?

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#110

There's a cheap plastic handle design fairly common on old screwdrivers and i've seen it as a wooden handle on chisels too. I didn't know it's name until recently - the "London Pattern Handle". These are peak handle design IMO. It lets you hold it in a few different ways, with your fingertips for work where you need to accurately feel what the tip is doing. With the palm of your hand when you need to apply lots of to…

They also allow you to use a wrench/pliers to apply more torque/holding.

That's what the hex section of the shaft, just south of the handle, is for.
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