Large corporations policing free speech is a horrible trend that often enough goes absolutely wrong and the only way to prevent censoring content inappropriately is to not censor anything at all. There are laws and courts that judge over what content should stay online and it should stay their responsibility. If we give that up, we replace democracy with a technocracy, that already showed us plenty of times is not so…
Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
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So we should keep up Kiwifarms because something similar has happened on Twitter? Is that the logic? Instead of removing one of the evils let's keep them both up because fairness or something like that?
The logic is that we shouldn't use some sort of "one drop" thinking to characterize a platform as broadly evil based on its worst users.
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#953This is a cycle. Some day, fascists will attack Cloudflare for protecting a site that hosts e.g. the home addresses of supreme court judges that ruled in favour of reducing civil liberties. Everyone criticising Cloudflare now had better remember it when the time comes and they realise that they don't actually care about frameworks and values, only about winning.
Except that example is already against their existing ToS.
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> Chloe Sagal seems to have had mental health issues - if not Kiwifarms then it would have been something else that trigged her suicide. That's a super fucked thing for you to armchair doctor.
If you look at what really happened saying "Kiwi Farms killed her" isn't exactly fair. - The thread about her didn't have a post for 6 months before she killed herself - Facebook locked her profile when she posted about suicide. Why is Kiwi Farms to blame for this? - She was thrown out where she was living a few days prior because the people she was living with decided they could no longer take care of her - She had…
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Yeah, I remember when "net neutrality" was something that the left was demanding. Once they realized that they had a systematic advantage in petitioning hosting companies to deplatform disfavored content without due process, however, all of the underlying arguments for net neutrality were quietly discarded.
Net neutrality was never about deplatforming, due process, or censorship. It was about ISPs prioritizing traffic or providing free bandwidth for their own services and throttling or charging extra fees for third party services (e.g. Time Warner providing access to their own streaming service without counting towards your bandwidth cap, but not doing the same for Netflix). It was an economic issue, not a political one…
But, of course, it had to be politicized. And few understood the issue, so they made up their own straw men.
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> 2. The OP classified DDoS as terrorism. This is begging the question. DDoS is not terrorism. Terrorism is "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." Inconveniencing a people, by taking down a website is not violence or intimidation. Without that tenant, everything you've argued on this thread is a moot point. Keep in mind who you're defending her…
> Inconveniencing a people, by taking down a website is not violence or intimidation. The intent of the DDoS in question is very clearly a form of intimidation. DDoS in general does cause real economic harm and not merely inconvenience. > Keep in mind who you're defending here. That's irrelevant. Murdering Nazis is still wrong and illegal. > The site in question doxxes trans people so they can be harassed and sent de…
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This is not a Cloudflare problem. The copyright holders should follow the procedure in the DMCA to protect their content. If they're not willing to spend the time to do so then what can they expect? No one else is going to do their job for them.
And by time, you really mean money. Because if you send a DMCA notice and the hosting company ignores you, the next step is court. Can they afford to get justice? How much does it cost for an indie artist to take a fairly anonymous website host to court? How do you serve a company that's anonymous thanks to Cloudflare?
This can cost an indie artist as much of as little as they want, depending on whether they hire counsel or act pro se.
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How exactly do you file a restraining order against an unknown group of unnamed people? It seems like a very privileged victim-blaming POV.
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Topics that cause disagreements not related to the job can be classified as personal and/or political. We should not take X as client, they are bad -> political We should not take X as client, my ex work there -> political We should not take X as client, they are unreliable with payments -> not political We should not take X as client, clients W, Y, and Z will drop us -> not political
I use a gender neutral restroom, but our office has none. ... Political? I use they/them pronouns, and I ask politely for others to use them... Political? Cause I've been told that being a queer person is political. I don't think it is, it's just... Who I am. People who say no politics at work generally have never had to think about how some identities are perceived as innately political.
Yes, don't use the bathroom at office.
>I use they/them pronouns, and I ask politely for others to use them... Political?
Absolutely, it is the very visible agenda of a very loud political machine. It's nothing but political. It can be an example of "political, n." in a dictionary.
That said, you don't need to be fired over everything political you do, just like discussing a little politics with your office colleagues once in a while is not necessarily an offence. Just as long as you stay respectful and polite when someone says no, they won't use your nonsense pronouns, very fine.
>Cause I've been told that being a queer person is political.
I doubt someone actually said that unironically, you're very likely deleting tons of context.
But the long and short of it is that no identity is political unless you make it, given the stereotypical "queer" person, I absolutely empathize with whoever said that statement to you, but "queerness", whatever that may be, itself is not necessarily making you political at work, it's just the kinds of people attracted to it. In theory, every ideology of every shape and color and identity can coexist under temporary and concrete banners like "make money".
Re: Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
#960If you get someone in trouble, harmed or killed - you get jail time. If it doesn't happen, it's first and foremost an issue with dysfunction of law enforcement, not the mailman being liable for delivering the mail when you think he/she should step in because the policeman didn't show up to work.