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Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Project Farm, a YouTube creator that faces various brands of tools off against each other, has purchased an early (but apparently production) release of one of these. In a recent comment on one of his videos he’s stated he aims to have a video of ratcheting screwdrivers including this one out in a few days. I’m optimistic given the attention to detail portrayed in this video, and the fact that Linus displays a passio…

Project Farm makes amazing videos.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#112
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For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

A cursory Google search suggests all of their manufacturing is done in Germany, the Czech Republic, and Taiwan -- is that right?

That is correct. Wera are often considered "top tier" in the screwdriver arena.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The ratchet is based on Megapro's long-standing & reliable design, but has been significantly modified to suit our needs. We reversed the ratchet direction (right for clockwise, left for anti-clockwise), adjusted the spring for lighter back-force which allows you to ratchet-drive even very small screws, and optimized for smoothness and quiet function. It's rated for operation of up to 220 inch-pounds of force." opti…

Why in the world do small screws need nearly 20 ft-lbs of force? That's a level where I'd be breaking out a much larger torque wrench. I'd be shocked if the kind of small machine screws in a PC can even withstand that force.

They don't. The screwdriver isn't meant for that.

Point is "adjusted the spring for lighter back-force" would normally mean the max torque you can use is reduced (because the spring slips). They state the max torque you can use to indicate the effect of the trade-off.

The fact that you think that the max torque is still way more than is needed, is probably why they advertise this. The fact that max torque is way higher than needed means they did not trade off too much max torque to reduce the back-force.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The ratchet is based on Megapro's long-standing & reliable design, but has been significantly modified to suit our needs. We reversed the ratchet direction (right for clockwise, left for anti-clockwise), adjusted the spring for lighter back-force which allows you to ratchet-drive even very small screws, and optimized for smoothness and quiet function. It's rated for operation of up to 220 inch-pounds of force." opti…

Why in the world do small screws need nearly 20 ft-lbs of force? That's a level where I'd be breaking out a much larger torque wrench. I'd be shocked if the kind of small machine screws in a PC can even withstand that force.

Because if somebody uses their $50 screwdriver to disassemble office furniture they don't want it to break.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#115
post #8

Not an apples-to-apples comparison, but I just wanted to see the price positioning for this screwdriver. It goes for $69.99 [0] and Megapro ratcheting screwdrivers (which they mentioned in their video) goes from ~$50 to $59.99, depending on what bits it comes with. [0] https://www.lttstore.com/products/screwdriver [1] https://megaprotools.com/collections/ratcheting-drivers

kind of a shame that even though they're based in Canada, if I were to buy one from either company I'd have to pay USD to get it shipped 1 hour away in the same metro area. $10 USD for local shipping apparently

That actually sounds in line with what Canada Post would charge.

I had to ship a laptop from me on Vancouver Island to my employer in Vancouver and it cost ~$50.

Shipping in the states is cheap. Shipping in Canada, even very short distances, is not.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The ratchet is based on Megapro's long-standing & reliable design, but has been significantly modified to suit our needs. We reversed the ratchet direction (right for clockwise, left for anti-clockwise), adjusted the spring for lighter back-force which allows you to ratchet-drive even very small screws, and optimized for smoothness and quiet function. It's rated for operation of up to 220 inch-pounds of force." opti…

Why in the world do small screws need nearly 20 ft-lbs of force? That's a level where I'd be breaking out a much larger torque wrench. I'd be shocked if the kind of small machine screws in a PC can even withstand that force.

"Instantaneous breaking force" or whatever it is can get pretty high, especially if the screw has been there for awhile, or there's any oxidation, etc.

Starting with the right driver (with a perfect tip that fits snugly) will reduce the chance of camout and can help remove them, but even then it can be a tricky situation at times.

I personally find that having a really long screw driver helps - I can get more torque without slipping.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#117
post #63

I always reach for the non-ratcheting screwdriver when working on electronics. I find the ratcheting mechanism on all drivers I've used to have too much resistance and just start screwing the screw back in rendering it useless and bulky. A bit drive with an end cap that rotates seems to work best for me. For automotive it's a different story, but then I'd use a ratchet wrench anyway, and fixed screwdrivers in the eng…

Idk what you call it but ones with a back knob that spins freely so you can press with your palm to hold it in place are my favorite for tiny screws. I definitely prefer ratchet for bigger stuff.

Those are called jeweller's screwdrivers.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#118
post #108

Seems like the juicero for screwdrivers... over-engineered tool that without the "LTT" branding could probably sink in the stores. Personally i like my tools rugged, kinda like Klein does it because "on the job" i tend to thrown them away either on purpose or by accident, this tool looks fragile, if little margins stuck the ratchet mechanism i can not wait what is going to happen when it suddenly falls from the 2nd f…

> Seems like the juicero for screwdrivers... over-engineered tool that without the "LTT" branding could probably sink in the stores. I haven't used one so I don't know how durable they are, but I got the opposite impression. The juicero served no purpose. If you don't need a multi-purpose screwdriver that's one thing, but it does have plenty of use-cases and there are a lot of competitors which they showed so they ar…

Plus, it’s probably for computer builders and stuff (like ikea things or similar). I don’t think those meant for heavy duty or home building.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#119
post #8

Not an apples-to-apples comparison, but I just wanted to see the price positioning for this screwdriver. It goes for $69.99 [0] and Megapro ratcheting screwdrivers (which they mentioned in their video) goes from ~$50 to $59.99, depending on what bits it comes with. [0] https://www.lttstore.com/products/screwdriver [1] https://megaprotools.com/collections/ratcheting-drivers

For some reason Megapro charges significantly more when ordering directly and last I looked I wasn't able to find them on Amazon. I was able to find the same screwdrivers for almost 50% less at the local Altex (Texas electronics store). Looks like this ratcheting one is 42.95: https://altex.com/collections/screwdrivers/products/megapro-...

Many manufacturers don't like direct sales, and if they offer them they're basically offering "warranty stock" for sale.

They much prefer selling to distribution.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

#120

As someone who spends a good portion of his workday using screwdrivers on industrial equipment and computers, I still don't understand why you'd want a ratcheting one.

Much of my use of ratcheting screwdrivers has been replaced by power tool screwdrivers.

If you know how to juice it, you can do amazing things with a bit driver, especially since you can put a lot of force to keep the bit set and still get it to turn.

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