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Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by lettergram »

buscoquadnary wrote: post #40
nishs wrote: post #4

From the article, “The Covid-19 pandemic is the primary cause of the decline.” And it is going to decline further. Covid affects multiple organ systems; the acute phase of the infection, it is safe to say at this point, is not the primary cause of concern. Covid-19 infection increases the chances of a stroke 4x and of heart failure more than 10x, among other disorders, within 12 months of infection. [1] A chief scien…

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To be fair, we documented it happening in real time -

https://austingwalters.com/covid-19-vaccine-deaths-being-cod...

UK government was counting gene therapy (“vaccine”) deaths as covid19 deaths. Which I mean, kinda?

Regarding the fatalities, yes obviously part of them are from the gene therapy. The question was were they primarily from the gene therapy.

https://austingwalters.com/covid19-vaccine-risks/

It turns out all the predictions people were making about the gene therapy risks came to pass. I was credited by many of the “anti-vax” crowd for discovering the first real trend of this happening in the US cdc data (led to a lot of death threats and what not).

After my blog and people picked it up, the CDC did a major edit to the data -

https://austingwalters.com/changes-in-the-cdc-counts-of-deat...

The only time I’d seen that in the 2 years I had been monitoring it (I tracked the data from 2019 - 2021). No idea why, but tracked what changed.

Anyway, to your point. All of those were predicted by people who knew how the gene therapy worked (I did take bioengineering classes, and knew mRNA was highly experimental), as well as those monitoring data (where I primarily worked from). The data is frankly overwhelming in one area, but it’s difficult for people to admit what Obama put so well…

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1517239870875447297

It’s an experiment. We didn’t know the long term effects (still don’t), but the fact it caused heart damage (“rarely”) still means it probably happens a lot, but won’t be discovered for a while. That said Covid19 spike proteins are believed to be the cause; so the gene therapy and the disease both likely cause the heart damage. The thing with the gene therapy is the proteins were produced rapidly and we didn’t / don’t know how long it lasts or the rate. So it could cause more damage, imo evidence supports it was more damaging.

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by wsc981 »

Regarding excess deaths, Dr. John Campbell has an interesting video on the subject [0], mainly regarding Scotland but he talks about other countries as well.

Of course, as excess deaths increase, average life expectancy will reduce.

Seems many countries have seen a big increase in excess deaths, but thus far the cause is unknown. These 'cause unknown' excess deaths are not attributed to COVID, as COVID deaths are a separate category.

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[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wLu98NygrA

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by tenpies »

fortran77 wrote: post #28

They're blaming COVID 19, but a very strong co-factor here is obesity.

From a resource perspective, it's fascinating how much money was incinerated on COVID.

Just in legislative health spending, and in spending by the Exectuive you're talking $1.2 TT dollars spent (with much more still allocated)[1].

Imagine if just 1% of that went towards cardiovascular health. We could have seriously moved the needle on the cause of diseases that consistently kills orders of magnitude more people. And sure, COVID had three months when it was the leading cause of death[2]. But just heart disease, kills nearly as many people every month.

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[1] https://www.covidmoneytracker.org

[2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1254560/leading-causes-o...

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by zepppotemkin »

californical wrote: post #64
midoridensha wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>One of the greatest failings of our "modern" healthcare system is that there's no plan to address this crisis. Obesity is the gateway to what seems like an infinite amount of health complications What are they supposed to do? Obesity is caused by American's terrible lifestyle. Healthcare systems can only do so much to compensate for a bad lifestyle. Stop drinking alcohol, and start walking everywhere instead of driv…

For one, we can start to treat city planning as a healthcare issue. Limit zoning restrictions that currently make driving everywhere the most convenient choice, stop all freeway expansion projects, and make as many walkable, bikeable, friendly neighborhoods as possible. If people want/need to go outside and walk or bike to accomplish their daily chores, they won’t need to think about exercise as much because it’ll ju…

That would be nice but I don't see that happening outside of boutique cities like bentonville

you really need to start fresh or force it before hitting the inflection point

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by switchbak »

midoridensha wrote: post #45
remarkEon wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hear, hear. One of the greatest failings of our "modern" healthcare system is that there's no plan to address this crisis. Obesity is the gateway to what seems like an infinite amount of health complications - not to mention the additional burden on the health care system itself when they get sick. I fully acknowledge that it's a difficult subject, it upsets people, and it's uncomfortable. The greatest healthcare adv…

>One of the greatest failings of our "modern" healthcare system is that there's no plan to address this crisis. Obesity is the gateway to what seems like an infinite amount of health complications What are they supposed to do? Obesity is caused by American's terrible lifestyle. Healthcare systems can only do so much to compensate for a bad lifestyle. Stop drinking alcohol, and start walking everywhere instead of driv…

The way we design our systems is what made this mess, we can also design systems that lead to better health outcomes.

We can also look around and see what other countries are doing right (and wrong).

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by bglazer »

faddypaddy34 wrote: post #88
syzar wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your overall point but at this time there are, thankfully, few believers of Scientology. Hopefully at some point in the future encountering an anti-vaxer will be as rare as encountering a Scientologist.

Explain how the COVID vaccine which does not 1) Prevent becoming infected with COVID, 2) Does not prevent spreading COVID to others, 3) Does not prevent COVID symptoms is a vaccine again? Also using the CDC definition that was specifically changed because the COVID vaccine didn't meet the definition of vaccine doesn't count. Additionally how about we don't just jump to lumping huge numbers of people into out groups t…

Do you think the vaccine lowers the probability that a person will die from an infection?

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by switchbak »

pmarreck wrote: post #55
midoridensha wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>One of the greatest failings of our "modern" healthcare system is that there's no plan to address this crisis. Obesity is the gateway to what seems like an infinite amount of health complications What are they supposed to do? Obesity is caused by American's terrible lifestyle. Healthcare systems can only do so much to compensate for a bad lifestyle. Stop drinking alcohol, and start walking everywhere instead of driv…

it’s not a lifestyle problem. neither willpower nor lifestyles have changed much. processed carbs being addictive, however… medication that treats it like the medical problem it is, instead of berating people for a lack of willpower that they were never missing to begin with, will fix it https://www.mounjaro.com/

Lifestyles haven't changed? Come now, in just my lifetime I've seen kids go from being outside everywhere playing until dark, to being mostly inside all day. And I live in a very active community!

With regards to changes in willpower, that seems like a strong assertion, got any sources on that?

100% agree that our diet (generally) has changed drastically.

But I don't get your jump of why medication has to be the solution? Maybe undoing some of the changes that got us here?

Sure, in many cases where they're already well down the road of obesity and experiencing its negative health consequences - yes medication can be useful. But that's far from the only option at hand here.

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by bee_rider »

hackerlight wrote: post #77
nishs wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sentence you’ve quoted, from the abstract of the paper, refers to the state of knowledge before this paper was written/published. The results section of the paper updates this knowledge. It says: “Compared to those with first infection, those with reinfection exhibited increased risk and excess burden of all-cause mortality, hospitalization, and at least one sequela in the acute phase and the post-acute phase of…

Hate to be that guy, but people who are susceptible to reinfection are also probably less healthy.

I'm pretty sure everyone is susceptible to reinfection after a while.

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by brippalcharrid »

swader999 wrote: post #83
Teever wrote: post #79

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I find the cognitive dissonance that goes into thinking that the vaccine for a virus must be causing the increased rate of effects from an actual infection to be fascinating.

If the spike is toxic and widely distributed in the body from the vaccine, it seems plausible.

Especially if the spike protein produced by the vaccines has been modified to be more stable (pseudouridine vs uridine) and therefore more immunogenic (toxic), and is present in significantly larger (orders of magnitude larger) quantities.

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by faddypaddy34 »

bglazer wrote: post #96
faddypaddy34 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Explain how the COVID vaccine which does not 1) Prevent becoming infected with COVID, 2) Does not prevent spreading COVID to others, 3) Does not prevent COVID symptoms is a vaccine again? Also using the CDC definition that was specifically changed because the COVID vaccine didn't meet the definition of vaccine doesn't count. Additionally how about we don't just jump to lumping huge numbers of people into out groups t…

Do you think the vaccine lowers the probability that a person will die from an infection?

That is not a vaccine. No one calls corticosteroids or antibiotics vaccines yet both meet the definition of lowering the probability someone will dies from an infection. So does taking care of yourself, getting exercise, eating a healthy diet, not sitting still all day, and a large swath of other things none of which are called vaccines.
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