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US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by alphabetting »

modeless wrote: post #115
alphabetting wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The supply of TSMC chips won't disappear bc the US will defend Taiwan. It's far too important. The companies with major reliance on mainland China (Apple) are the ones that need to worry.

You really think TSMC will be able to fabricate and export chips at a significant fraction of full capacity during a war with China?

I'm doubt full capacity but I think there's no doubt the US will defend Taiwan with full force of military to protect those chips and this order is more evidence of that. They now seem to get how important AI is to future global order.

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Post by riku_iki »

alphabetting wrote: post #114
modeless wrote: post #84

I'm starting to think it's a good idea to stock up on all the electronics you think you might need for the next decade. Because when China finally invades Taiwan, the supply of electronic devices worldwide is going to instantly disappear. How many electronic devices do you own that don't have any part of their supply chain in China or Taiwan or adjacent countries? The COVID shortages we all saw were practically busin…

The supply of TSMC chips won't disappear bc the US will defend Taiwan. It's far too important. The companies with major reliance on mainland China (Apple) are the ones that need to worry.

there is no much defense from barrage of cruise missiles on tsmc facilities.

Saudis couldn't defend their oil assets from Iran drone attack for example.

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Post by _-david-_ »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #52

Does that mean the US is acknowledging that Taiwan isn't China?

No. The only countries which officially recognize Taiwan as independent are: Belize, Guatemala, Haiti, Holy See (Vatican City), Honduras, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, Paraguay, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, and Tuvalu.

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Post by PheonixPharts »

modeless wrote: post #84

I'm starting to think it's a good idea to stock up on all the electronics you think you might need for the next decade. Because when China finally invades Taiwan, the supply of electronic devices worldwide is going to instantly disappear. How many electronic devices do you own that don't have any part of their supply chain in China or Taiwan or adjacent countries? The COVID shortages we all saw were practically busin…

My other concern is the collapse of the tech sector in a few months. I'm roughly 80% certain I'll be subject to layoffs in October (though all my coworkers are clueless), and I don't think it will be anywhere close to as certain I can find a new job as during the pandemic (then for every one company doing layoffs there were two with "unprecedented-who-could-see-this-might-end" growth).

Lot harder to justify a new PC when no longer receiving a paycheck, though it will likely be even more important to have one then.

Just got a new System76 machine and I have to say, I'm really loving it.

Hard times ahead, unfortunately after that, it's even harder times.

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Post by kelnos »

hotfix12 wrote: post #113
olladecarne wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lack of high end tech will be the least of your problems if China and the US get into a hot war.

Why would China and the US get into a hot war anyway?

It's unclear whether the US would deploy its own military to protect Taiwan in case of a Chinese invasion... but it could happen.

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Post by colinmhayes »

modeless wrote: post #84

I'm starting to think it's a good idea to stock up on all the electronics you think you might need for the next decade. Because when China finally invades Taiwan, the supply of electronic devices worldwide is going to instantly disappear. How many electronic devices do you own that don't have any part of their supply chain in China or Taiwan or adjacent countries? The COVID shortages we all saw were practically busin…

The contingency is the chips act building more fabs in the us.

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Post by systemvoltage »

immigrantheart wrote: post #69
systemvoltage wrote: post #57

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No, the US world police is winding down (Bretton Woods era). Expect massive chaos everywhere except in US for decades to come.

Yes I read the book as well. US already has inside chaos (and will get way way, way way, way way worse), don't need to worry about other countries chaos.

Could very well be, I sincerely hope not. If you remove the facade of petty wars of insert-your-current-thing, I was surprised to see that Biden is even more pro-US and anti-China/Russia than Trump from a strategic standpoint. US is becoming the IBM of sorts of nation. Slow, sluggish, inefficient and it's gonna continue to peddle on as far as no one fucks with the food supplies (or guns).

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Post by htrp »

fabianhjr wrote: post #46

So AMD Radeon RX is about to gain an edge on enterprise / datacenter market in China.

AMD isn't subject to the limitations as current-gen Radeons aren't fast enough.

edit.... but apparently the AMD MI200 datacenter chips are subject to this

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Post by Zircom »

PheonixPharts wrote: post #124
modeless wrote: post #84

I'm starting to think it's a good idea to stock up on all the electronics you think you might need for the next decade. Because when China finally invades Taiwan, the supply of electronic devices worldwide is going to instantly disappear. How many electronic devices do you own that don't have any part of their supply chain in China or Taiwan or adjacent countries? The COVID shortages we all saw were practically busin…

My other concern is the collapse of the tech sector in a few months. I'm roughly 80% certain I'll be subject to layoffs in October (though all my coworkers are clueless), and I don't think it will be anywhere close to as certain I can find a new job as during the pandemic (then for every one company doing layoffs there were two with "unprecedented-who-could-see-this-might-end" growth). Lot harder to justify a new PC…

Why is the tech sector about to collapse?

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Post by kcb »

fortran77 wrote: post #80
ivalm wrote: post #49

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No, this is part of the deal. You get benefits of being an American company, but you also get the disadvantages.

It may help them -- NVIDIA is banned but not AMD GPUs. This sort-of proves that AMDs are toys, and NVIDIA is for serious work

> This sort-of proves that AMDs are toys, and NVIDIA is for serious work

https://www.top500.org/lists/top500/2022/06/

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