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DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Damn, Dall-E really lost its competitive edge overnight when Stable Diffusion was released. They dropped their prices across the board in response, but honestly I think it still isn't enough to save them. The magic of open-source competition.

They dropped the prices for GPT-3, not for Dall-E.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Considering the threat from DALL-E going offline, it seems quite acceptable. These aren't precious photos since it's all made up anyway, you can download any pictures you make, and you probably already did for the ones you care about. I'd worry more about, say, keeping your photos on Google and losing your account somehow.

It's not only the threat of going offline. DALL-E makes it extremely difficult to generate many ideas because of its absurd content blocker - for example, I had something like "ominous, foreboding landscape beneath a black sun" blocked because (from what I could tell) it has words with negative connotations and the word "black" in the same sentence. It does this all the time, their discord is full of examples.

Yeah, if you run into those then you'll want to use something else. (I haven't in my casual usage.)

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Doesn't make sense to me why OpenAI has kept DALL-E closed source for so long. I can only guess either safety from misuse or leveraging it for money. At this rate though, Stable Diffusion is going to dwarf it

Wasn't OpenAI supposed to "democratize deep learning"? It seems more like they were trying to accomplish the opposite.

That's the thing, once the cat is out of the bag, it's out. Once someone develops AGI, it now exists. You can choose to either share it, or sell it.

You might think that the nuclear bomb is a good analogy to use here, but it is not, because once the field has advanced to the point in which one group can develop AGI, it is now possible for other groups to develop it with relative ease, unless you actively take over the world first and deny those other groups the compute resources necessary to train/run AGI.

The point is, once these algorithms are upon us, you must be willing to accept what impacts they will have, even if it destroys entire industries. The alternative being that you destroy the industry slowly rather than quickly, while simultaneously widening the gap between the elites and everyone else.

The mistake is thinking that people can't adapt to the times, which is only true if you are actively holding them back.

If someone developed AGI today, the best thing to do would be to instantly throw up a torrent of it and spread it as fast as possible, because if a sole entity is able to get it first and kick the ladder away, we are most likely screwed.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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I thought their research actually is open, at least? That's still something...

Their research is closed -- they don't release model weights, nor in most cases the training or model scripts. Certain things they release, just like any other for-profit research firm.

As the sibling says, in academia this is already more than open...

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Stable Diffusion is arguably better, has more features, and is free. OpenAI can't compete with free. Even if you don't want to take the 30 seconds to set it up in a free Google Colab environment, the paid DreamStudio version is still half the price of Dalle.

I don't think Stable Diffusion is technologically better yet. Sure, both SD and Midjourney produce absolutely beautiful artworks most of the time. But if you want something specific and out of the ordinary it takes a lot of attempts and promptcrafting (and sometimes you are unable to accomplish what you want at all). However, my experience is that these prompts (which SD/MJ struggles with) often produce good results…

Note that Dalle2 uses CLIP guidance while SD doesn't, it is a feature that will be added soon and can already be added by users if they want although im not sure how easy it is. MidJourney has already shown theyve implemented it in their beta using stable diffusion and it make the results 200% better trust me

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Running this at home is only free like mining cryptocurrency is free if you didn't buy your computer and don't pay for the electricity. Plus you can only run it on the computer that has the good graphics card, which probably isn't your laptop. I expect most people aren't going to be generating images all day, so using a cloud-based service for occasional use will still make a lot of sense. Stable Diffusion offers a p…

It does run on Apple silicon. 55 seconds in M1 Pro (vs 15 seconds on RTX 3070).

it will be faster soon as Emad said there was issues with the ISA for the gpu not being fully ported or something of the sort

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Meanwhile someone has already built a photoshop plugin for Stable Diffusion that you can use today to do basically the _exact_ same thing: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/wyduk1/sho...

But aren’t the results from stable diffusion not nearly as good as DALLE2?

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Doesn't make sense to me why OpenAI has kept DALL-E closed source for so long. I can only guess either safety from misuse or leveraging it for money. At this rate though, Stable Diffusion is going to dwarf it

> I can only guess either safety from misuse I still don't understand what this would mean. Where are all of the terrible things that were supposed to happen, now that Stable Diffusion is available? We've been able to create completely photorealistic fiction for decades now. See any movie with CGI for an example of whole worlds, and people, that don't exist. The bar has gradually been lowering (see the amazing CGI th…

It’s been a week, there is going to be an explosion of believable fake items that are going to be used to lure people in to even more unbelievable conspiracy theories than there currently exist. Your average conspiracy nut didn’t have the skills or know how before, but they sure do now.

Also you’re probably not seeing all the pedo content that people are already generating for themselves.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Stable Diffusion allows anyone to make kiddie porn with a half-second of curiosity/effort. Maybe you didn't know about that, maybe you think it's NBD, but in any case, that is the tire fire which aspiring AI majors want to avoid.

Pen and paper can do the same. Or Photoshop. Anyone can draw anything! OMG, stop the paper factory.

Stable diffusion can make very realistic looking images (probably videos soon) that is accessible to anyone.
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