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If this is in response to Kiwi Farms, I would say this is very disappointing. Love CloudFlare, think they are amazingly innovative, huge amount of respect for the people who work there. I see where they're coming from, but I don't see how KF is defensible whilst 8chan et al aren't.
Remember, while they took down 8chan, they left up ISIS sites hosting ISIS-made videos of ISIS members burning people alive , popping off their heads with detcord, and the like. 8chan bad , ISIS ... well, not as bad? I will never stop reminding people that the CEO said he woke up in a bad mood one day and took down protections for one group ... but left murdersites alone. Can't be undone. Remember that whenever they…
Never thought I'd see the Left trying to weaponize corporations to suppress speech they dislike. Reminds me a LOT of Evangelicals in the 2000s - I know that comparison has been made frequently but that's the last group that made a serious censorship push. I wonder how all of this will end? I support CloudFlare here - they should act as a utility, not as an arbiter of content. This ends poorly and one day will bite th…
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And let's be real. DDoS attacks are acts of digital terrorism. They're attacking infrastructure due to political motives. These people who want to revoke DDoS protection for groups they don't like are essentially promoting terrorism. Why else would they fight so hard to remove DDoS protection, if not because they simply want those attacks to succeed?
You seem to be treating all political conflict as terrorism. Couldn't you say the same about people who organize on Kiwifarms and flood social media with specious allegations of bad character or nefarious actions? For that matter, the site has been heavily associated with doxxing and swatting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberterrorism#Defining_cybert...
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Call the cops, file restraining orders, and get a good therapist. Assholes and trolls are still going to exist regardless of what any platform does. You can’t have what you want by trying to pressure cloudflare, it won’t make a positive difference. Do something real instead of advocating for something toothless and symbolic.
How exactly do you file a restraining order against an unknown group of unnamed people? It seems like a very privileged victim-blaming POV.
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The whole point of my comment is that I don't think it is easy. It'd be great, but it certainly isn't easy. If they get rid of Kiwi Farms, ultimately it's not going to fix the problem. They're going to find a new, harder to harass vendor for CDN. Cloudflare's detractors are going to find a new website to talk about. If you're talking about all websites that do this kind of thing, I have my doubts about how this would…
> They're going to find a new, harder to harass vendor for CDN. This is a good thing. It raises the barrier of entry to do what they want to do. They will likely provide a worse service as well.
How so?
Chloe Sagal seems to have had mental health issues - if not Kiwifarms then it would have been something else that trigged her suicide. It really baffles me when people are targeted by trolls - trolls have been around since the days of Fidonet and BBS - without strict moderation it is a wild west. Also the solution seems kind of obvious to me - just disconnect yourself - delete social media , curate your feeds and sto…
> Chloe Sagal seems to have had mental health issues - if not Kiwifarms then it would have been something else that trigged her suicide. Harassment is associated with suicidality.[1][2] > Also the solution seems kind of obvious to me - just disconnect yourself - delete social media , curate your feeds and stop posting about your real life on twitter , your job or where you live and find another avenue not twitter to…
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It's a really tricky situation. On the one hand, websites like KF and the like are utterly reprehensible. On the other hand, Cloudflare taking it upon themselves to police the Internet is a nightmare in its own, given their bot-prevention services are effectively mandatory in order to even keep any sort of larger interactive website running. What is permitted to say is something for the courts, not for the whims of p…
Like with so many SaaS, CloudFlare has perhaps become too many digital eggs in one digital basket, so inevitably it will result in disappointment and bad decisions ala Twitter, GoDaddy etc.
We point out a particular bad actor in violation of their own policies, and they do nothing. We complain loudly about it in the news, and they vaguely commit to "fighting" the problems that were already against their AUP... but not any specific named bad actors. Automated systems are chucked at the wall, but the actual people people are angry about are exempted in the name of "free speech" until it costs the company business.
This cycle repeats until a politician gets a bug up their butt about it and passes a law mandating platforms have more censorious policies.