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Re: Advantages of CRT over LCD

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Post by asciimov »

Things I don't miss from CRTS: Their weight, the heat they put off, eye strain caused by low refresh rates (below 75hz for me), having to adjust the rabbit ears or outdoor antenna when one of the 4 channels got too snowy, image burn in.

Things that I miss from CRTS: black is black not grey, console tvs and tv's as furniture, better viewing angles as people didn't mount their damned tv over a fireplace or up high in general, turning the brightness knob down if it too bright at night, video games (of course),

Re: Advantages of CRT over LCD

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Post by bzzzt »

mikestew wrote: post #18
AdamH12113 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a plasma TV that I use for gaming (Panasonic Viera). It's a great display with none of the contrast or ghosting disadvantages of an LCD, but it's heavy, delicate, and most importantly, it puts out a ton of heat. A plasma TV is basically a grid of tiny neon lights. Like any active display (CRT, plasma, or OLED) it can suffer from burn-in, but I haven't found that to be a problem for my usage.

Between a very old Panasonic Viera 42" upon which a buttload of Halo was played over many years, and the current Samsung Not-Smart Plasma which gets a bit less game play, I've yet to see the slightest hint of burn-in. I did get some ghosting on the Panny before I sold it, but I otherwise take plasma burn-in to be an artifact from TVs made twenty years ago.

It's a problem with every plasma TV ever made. I've got one of the last Panasonic Viera's which, after almost 10 years, has a slight dark patch around the place where subtitles tend to appear (I'm from the Netherlands where almost all non-dutch content is subtitled) It's only really noticeable when looking at a uniform gray screen which is not my content of choice, but it's there.

Re: Advantages of CRT over LCD

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Post by formerly_proven »

tinus_hn wrote: post #60
cannam wrote: post #35

I can't imagine loving a monitor the way I loved my iiyama Vision Master Pro. 1600x1200 at 71Hz driven from a Matrox Millennium (4MB VRAM and no 3D acceleration whatsoever) with soft-edged pixels and no visible grain or mesh. It was by far the best computer-related object I had ever owned. But that would be so impractical now, given its bulk and what else is available. We actually still have a CRT as our main TV here…

Be aware of the energy you are wasting, a modern tv uses much less power than a crt.

Residential TV power use is probably not a big factor (unless you have a TV problem), and even though CRTs got nice and warm, modern OLED TVs do just the same. Many even have cooling fans for the panel.

Re: Advantages of CRT over LCD

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Post by xwolfi »

asciimov wrote: post #71

Things I don't miss from CRTS: Their weight, the heat they put off, eye strain caused by low refresh rates (below 75hz for me), having to adjust the rabbit ears or outdoor antenna when one of the 4 channels got too snowy, image burn in. Things that I miss from CRTS: black is black not grey, console tvs and tv's as furniture, better viewing angles as people didn't mount their damned tv over a fireplace or up high in g…

Try OLED it solved the black, the viewing angle, the video games look insane, the near zero bezels make the image seem floating and well a remote control can adapt brightness well.

Re: Advantages of CRT over LCD

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Post by wheybags »

asciimov wrote: post #71

Things I don't miss from CRTS: Their weight, the heat they put off, eye strain caused by low refresh rates (below 75hz for me), having to adjust the rabbit ears or outdoor antenna when one of the 4 channels got too snowy, image burn in. Things that I miss from CRTS: black is black not grey, console tvs and tv's as furniture, better viewing angles as people didn't mount their damned tv over a fireplace or up high in g…

Adding one not-missed item to the list: the annoying high pitch whine

Re: Advantages of CRT over LCD

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Post by formerly_proven »

midoridensha wrote: post #68
mike_hock wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because there always has to be some retarded-ass "enhancement" going on fucking with the colors, fucking with the image in any which way possible. Bullshit sharpening filter, bullshit edge detection filter that produces shitty artifacts around actual sharp edges that don't need to be fucked with. The early LCDs were shit because they did only nearest-point sampling. The new LCDs are shit because they "enhance" t…

>The new LCDs are shit because they "enhance" the image to shit, even in native resolution. If you're talking about motion interpolation and that kind of thing, that can all be easily turned off.

The fact that many in-depth reviews contain a long section of "set these settings to these values to get an undistorted look" and the creation of filmmaker's mode belies this being easy to turn off.

Re: Advantages of CRT over LCD

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Post by cannam »

tinus_hn wrote: post #60
cannam wrote: post #35

I can't imagine loving a monitor the way I loved my iiyama Vision Master Pro. 1600x1200 at 71Hz driven from a Matrox Millennium (4MB VRAM and no 3D acceleration whatsoever) with soft-edged pixels and no visible grain or mesh. It was by far the best computer-related object I had ever owned. But that would be so impractical now, given its bulk and what else is available. We actually still have a CRT as our main TV here…

Be aware of the energy you are wasting, a modern tv uses much less power than a crt.

A good point. I just checked - the CRT draws about 120W and the 40" LCD about 70W. The latter is more than I expected, given that it's not particularly big by modern standards - though it is a few years old itself by now.

Re: Advantages of CRT over LCD

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Post by yourusername »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #58
vbezhenar wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’ll be very niche gadget so who cares about environment.

You'd think that about mechanical keyboards too, but there you go.

Mechanical keyboards are a small niche. I would be suprised if they make up more than 0.5% of the keyboards in use today.

Re: Advantages of CRT over LCD

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Post by hbossy »

wheybags wrote: post #75
asciimov wrote: post #71

Things I don't miss from CRTS: Their weight, the heat they put off, eye strain caused by low refresh rates (below 75hz for me), having to adjust the rabbit ears or outdoor antenna when one of the 4 channels got too snowy, image burn in. Things that I miss from CRTS: black is black not grey, console tvs and tv's as furniture, better viewing angles as people didn't mount their damned tv over a fireplace or up high in g…

Adding one not-missed item to the list: the annoying high pitch whine

Even worse when your grandparents couldn't hear it and thought it's perfectly OK ta have TV buzzing 24/7 in the background.
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