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Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by standardUser »

aero-glide2 wrote: post #23

I don't really agree with this, but consider this argument : Is it really a bad thing if different countries have different understanding of what's allowed/not allowed? If the whole world had the same system of governance, that could be dangerous too.

There's tremendous variance in what different societies, and segments within societies, find acceptable and unacceptable. That's not what this is about. This is about an unaccountable government imposing its idea of what is acceptable and unacceptable.

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Post by abnry »

ginger2016 wrote: post #335
clouddrover wrote: post #322

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What in particular is racist about it?

If you have watched the show and failed see why it is racist, then we need to give some anti-racist education. It is affirming the stereotype Indian males lack confidence with women. Raj can’t speak with women without the use of alcohol, the show constantly mocks his accent, worshipping of cows etc.

Never knew it was a stereotype that Indian males lack confidence with women. It's funny to me when someone's denunciation of a stereotype ends up teaching me about the "stereotype". It has happened to me before.

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Post by standardUser »

wizofaus wrote: post #193
alldayeveryday wrote: post #146

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Why would a culture require a puritanical religions to have an aversion to discussion of sex? And do you consider an aversion to discussion of sex to be default lacking or present in a population?

Because why else would such an aversion arise? I don't think there are any sensible "defaults" for human cultures. But I wouldn't expect aversion to talking any sex to arise spontaneously among a population that hadn't had it imposed by prior generations or from outside. We're naturally curious beings and have lots of sex (compared to other species).

The default is humans are naked or mostly-naked and have sex in the same small dwelling where their children sleep. Everything from there has been downhill.

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Post by still_grokking »

archi42 wrote: post #390
gernb wrote: post #292

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I don't know if it's still true but a friend of mine married a German woman and we were a little surprised she had never seen "The Sound of Music" and she said, of course, it's banned.

I couldn't find info on a ban. It was heavily/absurdly redacted due to the Nazi topics (1966 was two decades after the war), but some of those changes were promptly reverted. Can't say if that was due to the censor bureau, or if the censorship was a decision in the company. Anyway, since it's VHS release you can buy the uncut version legally, and sellers are allowed to advert for it. It is rated as suitable from the…

Never heard of this movie but it says clearly on the German Wikipedia page:

> In Deutschland wurde der Film zunächst in einer stark gekürzten Fassung gezeigt, in der sämtliche Bezüge auf den Nationalsozialismus fehlten und der Film mit der Hochzeit Marias endet und nicht – wie in der Originalfassung – mit der Flucht der Trapp-Familie aus Österreich.

[eng]:

> In Germany, the film was initially shown in a heavily edited version, in which all references to National Socialism were removed and the film ends with Maria's wedding, and not—as in the original version—with the Trapp family's escape from Austria.

LOL, sounds even more scary than the Chinese version of Fight Club!

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

ginger2016 wrote: post #335
clouddrover wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What in particular is racist about it?

If you have watched the show and failed see why it is racist, then we need to give some anti-racist education. It is affirming the stereotype Indian males lack confidence with women. Raj can’t speak with women without the use of alcohol, the show constantly mocks his accent, worshipping of cows etc.

So what? It's a comedy tv series.

I'm a slav and from the balkans, we're either portrayed as tracksuit wearing thugs, drunks or in some relation to the balkan wars. So what?

We even have our own comedy tv series playing with the stereotypes (eg. Kursadzije), where all the stereotypes are used all the time (serbs and croats have historic "issues", montenegrins are lazy, bosnians are stupid and slovenians are femboys)... people like this, they laugh at this, and watch it, in all of the mentioned countries and wider.

Somehow it's always "someone else" that gets offended... same for 2balkan2you subreddit, where a (probably american) admin doesn't get the difference between romanians and roma/gypsy people.

Even with games... stuff like gta 4 just makes people trying to guess what Niko tried to say, because his serbian/serbocroatian accent/pronounciation is horrible in the game.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by neither_color »

Animats wrote: post #394

What's more striking is what comes out of China's domestic entertainment industry. There are far too many historical costume dramas. Those aren't as heavily censored as modern ones. More modern content looks like it was censored in accordance with the US Television Code of the 1950s. ("The code prohibited the use of profanity, the negative portrayal of family life, irreverence for God and religion, illicit sex, drunk…

What's interesting is in the US that kind of censorship is attributed to the most mainstream religion but China is officially atheist and does the same. Whenever people tell me that it's only one religion standing in the way of equal rights for disadvantaged groups I remind them that there's an atheist superpower that's even less permissive except for on reproductive issues(although, in their case they do regulate it heavily, only in the other direction with limits on the amount of children you can have and forced terminations in the past).

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

bentley wrote: post #400
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #378

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It doesn't matter. The Supreme Court's logic was "sure, every individual part of this is completely legal, but if you consider it as a black box, it feels like a different thing which is illegal, so we're going to treat it like it's illegal thing." That conclusion was pretty likely, but it's utterly baffling to someone who thinks about the law like a programmer. To put it in the Supreme Court's exact words: "Given Ae…

I always liked Antonin Scalia’s dissent in that case. “We came within one vote of declaring the VCR contraband 30 years ago in Sony [v. Universal] . The dissent in that case was driven in part by the plaintiffs’ prediction that VCR technology would wreak all manner of havoc in the television and movie industries. The Networks make similarly dire predictions about Aereo. We are told that nothing less than ‘the very ex…

Oh totally. Scalia's copy shop analogy was spot on, and the majority's rebuttal was just "this is more like a video on demand service than a copy shop" was weak as heck and just goes back to their main "shut up about how it works we know what we're looking at" argument.

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Post by spywaregorilla »

jedberg wrote: post #364
powerhour wrote: post #296

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You didn't include the laugh track and yet I still heard it.

The producers swear up and down to this day that they did not use a laugh track. That that was legit audience reaction.

Is that really true? Or did they simply mean it's a group of real people recorded laughing, having been prompted to laugh?

Which is still lame but very easy to believe

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by Gatsky »

drfuchs wrote: post #222
jrochkind1 wrote: post #6

> This added up to over one hour of deleted scenes, or nearly three full episodes of purely censored content I would like to watch the edit of only deleted scenes strung together.

In the charming 1988 Best Foreign Film "Cinema Paradiso," set in a small pre-war Italian town, the projectionist has to preview every imported American film for the local priest, who sits and rings a bell at each scene containing a kiss so they can be spliced out before the paying audience arrives. Spoiler: In the heartwarming ending, the young boy who had befriended him comes back to town after the death of the proj…

Great film, the projectionist is just a wonderful character.

I still think a lot about that story he tells with the princess and the soldier.

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Post by EpicEng »

dwighttk wrote: post #367
MichaelCollins wrote: post #320

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> nunchaku Huh, you weren't kidding. Banned and censored in the UK, banned in Canada, Germany, and several US states... because of Bruce Lee? Bizarre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunchaku#Legality

So is Napoleon Dyanamite censored too? I think he mentions nunchucks

The word isn't banned.
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