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Post by stickfigure »

curun1r wrote: post #260
joe_the_user wrote: post #171

It's worth noting that American censorship in, say, 1960, was at close to the same level. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_censorship_in_the_United_...

1960s? Try the 1990s. The Blockbuster version of Bad Lieutenant had almost 30 min removed. Blockbuster was silently editing many of their VHS rentals before DVD took over. Yes, not government censorship, but it’s almost worse when a private, unaccountable, entity is imposing its own moral values, especially when they reach the size that Blockbuster did during its heyday.

Blockbuster was given a death sentence by the market. Seems like justice done?

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Post by gernb »

still_grokking wrote: post #270

What's the moral here? There is also a lot of censoring in the "western" world. It's also mostly justified by the exact same "reasons" like the ones mentioned in that blog post. Especial the "but the children" "argument" is used the whole time. And if that gets boring than it's "terrorism". Than again "the children". Also there are a lot of things one can't publicity say for political reasons. In Germany for example…

I don't know if it's still true but a friend of mine married a German woman and we were a little surprised she had never seen "The Sound of Music" and she said, of course, it's banned.

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Post by steve76 »

still_grokking wrote: post #270

What's the moral here? There is also a lot of censoring in the "western" world. It's also mostly justified by the exact same "reasons" like the ones mentioned in that blog post. Especial the "but the children" "argument" is used the whole time. And if that gets boring than it's "terrorism". Than again "the children". Also there are a lot of things one can't publicity say for political reasons. In Germany for example…

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Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by Tao3300 »

pimlottc wrote: post #281
Kye wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still encounter people who don't know "Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles" was a heavily censored version of the real show. They realize how weird the edits are in retrospect, but it didn't register much/at all for them at the time.

> "Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles" Are you referring to the UK version of the 1987 animated "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" TV series? I never realized it was considered controversial! [0] 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_(...

Heavens above, Myrtle! That turtle is a ninja! With nunchaku! Someone think of the children!

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by danjoredd »

tgv wrote: post #285
still_grokking wrote: post #270

What's the moral here? There is also a lot of censoring in the "western" world. It's also mostly justified by the exact same "reasons" like the ones mentioned in that blog post. Especial the "but the children" "argument" is used the whole time. And if that gets boring than it's "terrorism". Than again "the children". Also there are a lot of things one can't publicity say for political reasons. In Germany for example…

You’re really not making a strong argument by invoking the German example. The things that they forbid are mainly glorification of a most shameful regime. Holocaust denial comes to mind. Good riddance, I say.

I think its less holocaust and more pornography these days. That and violent video games are heavily censored for nonpolitical reasons like gore, nudity, etc. I am glad they censor the holocaust glorification, but I wish they would leave in the other stuff.

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Post by powerhour »

munk-a wrote: post #219
jrochkind1 wrote: post #6

> This added up to over one hour of deleted scenes, or nearly three full episodes of purely censored content I would like to watch the edit of only deleted scenes strung together.

Unfortunately it's still the Big Bang Theory.

You didn't include the laugh track and yet I still heard it.

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Post by tablespoon »

S201 wrote: post #36
aero-glide2 wrote: post #23

I don't really agree with this, but consider this argument : Is it really a bad thing if different countries have different understanding of what's allowed/not allowed? If the whole world had the same system of governance, that could be dangerous too.

Because the people of China didn't choose this: their oppressive and authoritarian government did it for them.

> Because the people of China didn't choose this: their oppressive and authoritarian government did it for them.

Though to be fair, the political ideas that say that is a problem are pretty Western and (relatively) recent.

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Post by yorwba »

wizofaus wrote: post #229
yorwba wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's not the default state, it must have arisen spontaneously among the founders of puritanical religions.

Not necessarily, it likely happened incrementally. And it can still be rare for it to arise, it's just that once it did, something happened to make it stick.

I don't think "spontaneously" and "incrementally" are mutually exclusive, but anyways, you can apply your "it happened incrementally and then something happened to make it stick" theory to China as well.

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Post by coryfklein »

joe_the_user wrote: post #171

It's worth noting that American censorship in, say, 1960, was at close to the same level. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_censorship_in_the_United_...

Did the article imply somewhere that China is unique in it's censorship?

I personally tire of this pattern:

1. Article submitted to an international forum about X country doing Y bad thing

2. "Well the USA is just as bad, they also did/doing/will do Y bad thing"

Well yes, that is true, but people are voting up the submission because they found that X-doing-Y-today was interesting and don't care to rehash the history of the US every single time. YES the US has plenty of blemishes in its history. Yes it has censored, warred, raped, extorted, and imprisoned. Yes the US persists in directly doing some of those today, and through malice or ineptitude it fails to prevent others.

But the regularity with which this pattern repeats feels so much like state sponsored astroturfing I'm just tired of it.

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