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> TikTok didn’t, and lots of people think that they are just a cool app for teenagers to record their dancing. TikTok was literally attacked by US Presidents of opposing parties in two subsequent terms, and has been credibly threatened with total bans. So it's more like telling people China bad.
Well China, as in the Chinese government, is bad. So I'm fine with that message.
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> TikTok didn’t, and lots of people think that they are just a cool app for teenagers to record their dancing. TikTok was literally attacked by US Presidents of opposing parties in two subsequent terms, and has been credibly threatened with total bans. So it's more like telling people China bad.
And Facebook wasn’t attacked? Had CEO grilled by congress? Had government basically block any acquisitions moving forward? Let’s not pretend that all other social medias are loved.
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Is it really possible for anyone to doubt that it is anything but this?
Sure. Lots of people will refuse to even entertain the thought, because if true, it means that we're already at war and our people are being killed, and most western people are too mentally weak to take on the burden of accepting that bitter reality.
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> We get a special TikTok that isn't bound by Chinese censorship Content negative to China gets removed all the time while content negative to the US stays up. So I would assume there is still censorship.
I don't know anything about what's on Facebook for the past 10 years other that what people tell me. But if it's like everywhere else, it's utterly drenched in anti-China invective that periodically gets deleted if it crosses into open racism and wasn't said by Marsha Blackburn.
Prior to the war there was mostly around articles to do with covid so it was easy to avoid most of it.
It's impossible to avoid now.
I was reading comments about the iPhone 14 and the comments were reduced to 'stupid americans, we make your phones, haha you're too dumb to make iphones'..
Makes me want to quit the internet.
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No one is walking down your path of false logic other than your own baseless assumptions.
Typical response from a sketchy party: "Their document is full of misinformation!" without actually naming any.
As far as I can tell, TikTok scares like these are 30% standard social media moral panic, 70% jingoism. Everyone knows that they are paying for TikTok with their data and a few hundred million people (myself included) are okay with that calculus and making a rational, informed decision to continue using the product.
You're not paying with your data, you're paying with the foundations of functioning society and democracy that are being algorithmically subverted by a totalitarian slave state. The very things that trend on TikTok in the West are banned and filtered in China for a reason.
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If it's jingoism to support Western enlightenment values, liberal democracy, and basic human rights, then yeah I guess I'm a jingo.
There's a patriot in China talking about you and your government in exactly the same way. And his government has a quarter of the incarceration rate the US does, and bases its governance on the work of one of Hegel's students.
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>Everyone who pretend to be "politically neutral" will always be helping former. I'll assume you mean latter, easy mistake to make. Personally I find the "if you aren't supporting the ridiculous things we're doing you're supporting the enemy" argument ridiculous. I'm capable of thinking both need to seriously change, and think it's a better use of my time to try and change the Western Democracy I am a part of as it's…
I'm neither meant to mark anyone as traitor nor I like how Facebook affected society. At the same time I totally for any limitation or sanctions against media companies controlled by totalitarian or authoritarian states. Allowing literal "enemy" propoganda machines to run freely while they banned everything in their own countries is madness. Disclaimer: I'm not US or EU citizen. I just seen how my home country change…
Saying anyone who doesn't fully back Western democracies is supporting the enemy is calling them a traitor. Maybe that wasn't your intention, but providing support to the enemy is a textbook definition of traitor.
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If it's jingoism to support Western enlightenment values, liberal democracy, and basic human rights, then yeah I guess I'm a jingo.
There's a patriot in China talking about you and your government in exactly the same way. And his government has a quarter of the incarceration rate the US does, and bases its governance on the work of one of Hegel's students.
You've fallen for one of the most obvious and silly propaganda techniques there are.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
You believe CCP furnished statistics?
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You're not paying with your data, you're paying with the foundations of functioning society and democracy that are being algorithmically subverted by a totalitarian slave state. The very things that trend on TikTok in the West are banned and filtered in China for a reason.
This is some peak moral panic material, mixed with a healthy dose of irrational nationalism (which was planted into your mind with intention, just a hint).